Just started running around Valencia,

Track: Valencia
BIke: Yamaha R1 RM
Time: 1:39.334

Welcome to the boards, Slow1. :)

That's a very decent time!

slow1 - ive a 1.39.112 uploaded at the replay site :)

im not sure how much more time is left in the plain r1 rm though the suzuka 8 hour bikes seem to 3-4 more seconds than the plain "rm" machines have.

thx and thx for putting this place up!

I think I can milk a little more out of the RM. don't really want to break out the Suzuka bikes because they lack a little personal character (everybody looks the same when using them). Anyway I think I can get into the low 38s or high 37s with the RM as I had a lap that was almost a second faster but I tossed it away in the last corner. Got on the throttle a little to soon.

Have you tried tuning the bikes yet? does it make any difference? I haven't touched that yet, because my biggest hangup isn't the way the bikes handle more with the funky braking system of the game in general. Front brakes need to be stronger and less emphasis should be placed on the rear.

I wonder if I'm the only one who can't play the game with the ghost rider on? I always end up trying to race him and mess up my lines instead of riding through him!:D

Depends on how close I am to the ghost rider. Sometimes it will throw off my driving.

Tuning does make a difference, but not like in GT. A good tuning will have a better chance at making a bad rider good than a good rider great. I have played some with the suspensions but all my fastest replays you see on this site have been with stock tunings.

yeah that's what I mean. when I get close I start "racing myself" trying to make "passes" or "defend" my lines ^_^ So when I get a fast lap now I end the session and start a new one...hhhm probably should check to see if I can turn off the ghost laps

If the tuning doesn't make a huge difference then I won't bother. again my biggest issue isn't with the bike setup but more the way the braking is setup in the game.

anyway just got a 1'38.604 but still haven't put together a clean run. blew 3 turns pretty bad. this one I just tried to cross the line to log the time. pretty sure I can get a 37 if I stop choking, I just get to pumped when I know I'm on a good run and blow it. but if I can get it together and get that 37 I think that's about all I can do with it. Maybe I'll try tunning after that but don't think there would be much left

You can turn the ghost on and off while playing by clicking, or pressing down, on the right analog stick.

thx and thx for putting this place up!

I think I can milk a little more out of the RM. don't really want to break out the Suzuka bikes because they lack a little personal character (everybody looks the same when using them). Anyway I think I can get into the low 38s or high 37s with the RM as I had a lap that was almost a second faster but I tossed it away in the last corner. Got on the throttle a little to soon.

haha ... i usually brake too late, lift the rear and over the handbars i go :D

Have you tried tuning the bikes yet? does it make any difference? I haven't touched that yet, because my biggest hangup isn't the way the bikes handle more with the funky braking system of the game in general. Front brakes need to be stronger and less emphasis should be placed on the rear.

not really, though ive notice some small diffence in feeling here and there with the small tuning i tryed on the zx-6r rm. im tempted to say youre riding postion/style has as much effect as the bikes setup.

I wonder if I'm the only one who can't play the game with the ghost rider on? I always end up trying to race him and mess up my lines instead of riding through him!:D

i turn him off too. split times are good enough for me. what i hate though is that i use the right thumbstick for throttle/front brake and occasionaly hell magically and randomly appear out of thin air in front of me :eek:

hhmmm that would explain a lot. i was trying to figure out how you were so smooth on the throttle while I have to tap dance on the buttons to try and maintain a constant speed going into and coming out of corners. I would use the thumbstick for the throttle but don't like how it's tied into braking as there are times where I want to stay on the throttle and do a little trail braking


alright kept throwing it away at the end again but just got a clean 1'37.686 still not a perfect lap but it will do for now. blew 3 corners pretty bad so if I can manage to clean those up I think a 36 is possible.

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/yamaha/yzfr1racingmodify/376293/REPLAY.DAT

Not too slow, Slow. You're in SBK territory.

Not too slow, Slow. You're in SBK territory.

And about half an hour quicker than I am at Valencia atm. :lol: Very impressive times by all.

hhmmm that would explain a lot. i was trying to figure out how you were so smooth on the throttle while I have to tap dance on the buttons to try and maintain a constant speed going into and coming out of corners. I would use the thumbstick for the throttle but don't like how it's tied into braking as there are times where I want to stay on the throttle and do a little trail braking

in the NA version, i had to assign brake and throttle to the right thumbstick seperately. purhapes you can set the right thumbstick to throttle and then assign brake to something else? just set throttle to "nothing" (or whatever) then set brake to whatever you config you use?

alright kept throwing it away at the end again but just got a clean 1'37.686 still not a perfect lap but it will do for now. blew 3 corners pretty bad so if I can manage to clean those up I think a 36 is possible.

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/yamaha/yzfr1racingmodify/376293/REPLAY.DAT

nice :up: i need that replay. have you tweak your setup/body position any? i know i need to work on my lines because i either enter too slow and dont use all of the track on exit or enter too fast and cant get back on the throttle soon enough and my ghost drives past me.

ill view your replay later as im in the middle of the TT world series. :up:

I'll look into that setup but I don't really know that it would be worth the effort to get use to the change. Guess I'm lazy in that I try to map the controls of any racing game I play the same way which means L1&R1 gas and brake while L2 & R2 are for gear shifts.

I really haven't played to much with the settings. Mainly game setup so that all assists are off. Pro mode so the braking is seperate. Unfortunately you can only adjust "brake balance" on the race bikes (which sounds more like a car thing than bike) and then mapped the controls. I did however change the riding setup because I felt the default setup was beyond conservative. Very slow steering. So I have my kind of on the extreme side I guess.

SBK times didn't even think of that. but with no factory backing not to shabby I guess then! ^_^

Kind of pissed off right now as I was up .875 on my 1'37.686 time and then tossed it away in the last corner ! It wasn't even the corner I was almost already straight up but gassed it up to much went wide and off the track and hit the wall. guess that's what I get for being greedy

Unfortunately you can only adjust "brake balance" on the race bikes (which sounds more like a car thing than bike) and then mapped the controls.

[small rant] I know, what's with that!? Braided hoses maybe. Wavey/carbon disks maybe. But brake balance?? On a bike? :doh: [/small rant]

:angel:

I'vd completed all the series and pretty much gotten all the bikes and gear (Haga rep aside) that I'm interested in. The rewards aren't enough to make me sit through trying to get gold in all those stupid tests. I hate those things.

Anyway right now I guess I'm doing preseason testing. Despite the different bikes I know pretty much I'll only ever use the Yamaha R1s and R6s in the game (and the RMs at that) so basically I just work on a track at a time (probably a week) and get consistant it. So I'll probably spend another week on Valencia ,because last week was more about getting use to the game than anything, to get the rm R1 & R6 setups down. I like the RM bikes because the street bikes IMHO are a bit off performance wise and are too restricted when it comes to setup (mainly the braking balance option). On the other hand the Suzuka bikes would be cool but since I can't put my number or gear on them it's not as fun, so they are my challenge only bikes if someone is using them and puts down a time I can't match without using it. But I prefer the RM bikes right now. It's a nice balance

I do runs of 10 laps and come in and then do 10 more. It sucks that after each run the game doesn't show you all your times, so after each run I'll watch the replays and see if I'm running steady laps. With the R1 I can run consistant low 38s but haven't really started on the R6 yet. So my goal isn't just being able to do one fast lap but to do constant fast laps.

[small rant] I know, what's with that!? Braided hoses maybe. Wavey/carbon disks maybe. But brake balance?? On a bike? [/small rant]



that goes back to my idea that they didn't put a lot of effort into really changing the GT4 engine for bikes. For sure TT is a very good game despite itself, but it really feels to me like they did it between lunch breaks of GT5 dev. And despite all the press releases saying different, there are serveral things in the game that make me wonder how many of them have actually ever ridden a bike

I mean I've had a few bikes and now of them were SBK spec or anything but I don't think that's the reason I never had the brake balance option on them!!! ^_^

im down to a 1.38.069 with the ysp & presto. ive tweaked my riding postion a little and i think i over did the seat position. i moved the weight all the way to the front to help with exit understeer on the gas, but, i think thats causing the rear to lift under heavy braking even with balance at 2/3.

purhapes increasing the front bound (compression stroke?) help keep the rear end down and raising the rear to help keep sharp steering?

edit - 1.38.883 with the cbr1000rr rm

oh so you are using the 8hr bikes huh!?!?! I have my rider position pretty extreme. heavy front bias and if you watch the replay he is really hanging off the bike. IMHO the bikes are too floaty so that was my attempt to weigh it down a bit. honestly the game doesn't inspire me enough to try and mess with the actual bike settings aside from tire choice, because the things like the understeer you mentioned to me aren't setup related as much as it is the a result of the engine being to much GT4 and not enough TT.

So instead of messing with setups I just tried to figure out how to try and get the bikes to feel more bike like. To do that I have to use some very unbike techniques. for example

This doesn't always work but at Valencia there are a number corners where the "coast to tighten your line" just isn't the way to go. So last take that last corner the long lefty. you really should be accelerating through this section right up until you have to brake a little for that final left onto the straight. But the game would prefer you go in and coast through there. If you watch my replay with the display up , once the make the transition from right to left and the bike is on it's side, I'm back on the throttle and as I'm going up the hill and the bike starts to want to push wide, so I get on the front brakes and trail brake until I'm at the spot I want to a little wide so I can stand it up and brake a little. I would never do it to this extent for real but it goes back to something I noticed about the game. If you are at speed the front brakes don't so much stop you or slow you down as much they will lock you into a set speed. This is how I get my "neutral throttle" through corners until I'm ready to really get on the throttle.

it's hard to get right because the game isn't the best at visual cues, but I found out that you usually don't have to worry about flipping over the bars unless its a slow corner (which is odd given the low weight transfer at that speed) or if you try to put in to hard a steering input after you have the brakes on.

strange but it kind of works for me at the moment. when i figured this out that's when my times started dropping. The other thing I have to figure out now is how to stop the revs from dropping so much when you hit the rev limiter. They went a bit overboard with that and given how slow the bikes build revs in the game theres a lot of time to be gained or lost in this area.

im using a bit of everything, it just turns out the ysp/presto was the bike i was riding because the last race i did was the suzuka special bike race :p

The other thing I have to figure out now is how to stop the revs from dropping so much when you hit the rev limiter

you mean when the tyre spins up, you short shift and the engine bogs down?

yeah or if you clip the grass slightly, etc.... tried to short shift to get better drive but if you don't get it just right then you hit the rev limiter again and it's a double bog!!!!

I've noticed that sometimes when you tap the rear brake it acts like you are blipping the throttle, so trying to figure why and when it does that and maybe that will be the key to get to the next "level" for me. once I get that then I'll see about setup.

actually the other thing is trying to figure out what actually unloads the front sometimes. The rear sliding isn't such a big deal, but there are times when I'm really not doing anything and the front will just unload and send the bike into a wabble. didn't hit a bump curb or anything. Wonder if it's the game or maybe the PS2 controller bend into or out of shape. Don't know but it pisses me off when it happens for no reason.

So you can see I've been using Valencia as short of a test track ^_^

hm ... thats weird, purhapes while the engine is bogging down taping the rear brake would help speed things up?

whats your seat postion (forward/rear) and body lean (upright)?

fwiw - my best times in a small vareity of bikes

zx-10rm 50.229/1'16.962/1'45.069
nsr250 se rm 52.192/1'19.890/1.50.359
firebolt xb12r rm 49.822/1'15.951/1'44.182
zx-6r rm 48.857/1'14.478/1'42.067
999r rm 48.157/1'13.503/1'40.690
moriwaki motul tiger racing cbr1000rr suzuka 8 hour 47.236/1'12.278/1.39.238
Yamaha YZF-R1 RM 47.216/1'12.149/1'39.112
TRICK STAR ZX-10R Suzuka 8H 48.108/1'13.551/1'40.781
GSXR-750 51.041/1'18.107/1'47.033
NR750 52.117/1'19.883/1'49.655 128hp
YSP & PRESTO Racing YZF-r1 Suzuka 8H - 1.38.069
gsxr1000rm 1.40.759
[edit - cbr600rr rm- 1.41.037
cbr1000rr rm - 1.38.883

some of these i can go faster with, specially the zx-10r rm.

[small rant] I know, what's with that!? Braided hoses maybe. Wavey/carbon disks maybe. But brake balance?? On a bike? :doh: [/small rant]

:angel:

It seems the brake bias/balance has to do with non-pro modes.

Since they have modelled a linked braking system similar to the CBR1100XX and the VFR800 you can feel the difference instantly with "brake balance" in the non-pro modes.. pretty much what it says, bias when brakes linked ;)

It seems to have no effect on pro settings, as the brakes are seperated on diff buttons. Means the VFR and Blackbird are no longer "like real life" in pro mode, as they have linked brakes ;) :P hehe

are you sure? i can feel the differnce in 2/3 and 3/2 in pro :?

my zx-10r rm is down to a 1.39.604 :)

ive replays for all of the above execpt the cbr1000rr rm, i know theyre not the fastest but if anyone interested.

i think im going to try a different track for a little while, suzuka full probably.

I am not sure what 2/3 3/2 ratios you are refering to - but I went back and did my initial experiment again, and it seems even simpler than what I was thinking - the values are simply relative strengths - make front or back brake stronger.

Yep, my experience of the 'brake bias' setting is that you can just specify a number out of 10 for how powerful you want the front and rear brake to be. Has anyone actually tried it on 10? I think I went 1 up from the default and it was already a bit keen to stoppie everywhere. :doh:

I have mine set 10/3 and it still doesn't feel right because the bike doesn't really slow until you
a) hit the rear or
b) are going under 30 or 40 mph and then you get super brakes!!!
its really silly and it is what it is, but that doesn't stop it from pissing me off. I'm not one to throw controllers but I've broken 4 since I've gotten this game. I can deal with mistakes but when its because of the game.....:? It doesn't make any since that I can jam hard on the brakes trying to slow from high speed with the most weight transfer going on (oh and Dom the stoppies tend to occur if you are pushing forward. if you don't push forward they don't happen) and pretty much nothing happens, but then at low almost walking speed the bike endos.....pretty stupid

anyway I can pretty much run low 37s consistantly around Valencia now and know I can get a 36 if the game stops pissing me off so I'm going to move onto another track now. Probably Laguna or Suzuka for a bit

moriwaki cbr600rr - 49.681/1'15.799/1'44.313
cbr600rr - 49.633/1'15.540/1'43.484

both are road bikes with performance tyres and sports exhaust on the plain honda.

finally hit a 37 or two :)

Yamaha YZF-R1 RM - 1'37.891
7 Star CBR1000RRW - 1.37.407

i think i like the feel of the moriwaki, yoshi, and ysp/presto bikes over the 7 star honda. its stable, but, turns in a bit too slow for my tastes.

yeah, i found that the honda 1000rm is great to just hop on and rip ass, really easy to get 95% of the performance out of it, but its that last 5% that really needs that extra concentration. i also think the zx10 has really got some potential, but needs a damn good set-up/rider combo. the r1 feels to plain jane to me, like it is missing that flair, or really that character flaw. good bike none the less. and well, i just dont like the suzuki...

the GSXR1000rm is average, but, the zx-10r rm just doesnt put the power down too well. especially the 8hour zx-10r.

I turn some of my best lap times on the GSX-R1000RM.

well, other than the rsv rm and f4 rm, the litre superbikes are surprisingly well balanced :)

On the 999RM I am down to a 1.36.067. Think Bayliss's lap record is a 1.33!

if thats using pro mode, vermin, id love to see the replay :D

No, that was done in semi-pro that one. Haven't tried Valencia in pro mode yet. Will let you know how I get on.:)

only had the game a couple of days so still just winning myself some nice bikes - i'm only getting 1'42" s at Valencia so i've clearly got a lot of catching up to do ?

what riding style are you using - does lean in/out make that much difference ? have you modified rider position to suit your own style ?

it's all a bit complicated and involved for me - stock settings and away i go generally.

i usually hang off the bike pretty far, and i always adjust the bike settings. i started playing around with different rider forms, depending which bike i am on.

i can usually go pretty quick with the stock settings, but for me to get that last secnond or so, i need to change settings.

1'38.087 with teh zx-10r rm. cant go too far wrong with a bike thatll lift its front tyre in 6th gear ;)

hope this isn't too much of a bump :D i had a break from the race and decided to try the Duke RM, seeing as i was tuned in to the track

best lap from the session was a 1:36.696 (pro mode)

what times have you guys done in the litre rm challenges? i think i might be able to get a 1'38, but, my best time atm is a 1'39.8 with the cbr1000rr rm.

As we've just run Valencia i took out the Duke RM for a spin 1:36:552 Pro Mode :D

wish i could watch your replay, celtic, but, alias.

1'41.787 - Honda CBR1000RR (JP) :D

im sure calla, spire, and you faster guys could better that though :)

had a try at this before i get into the championship race, and got 1:35.814 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/195) on the 999RM

glad to have dipped below the '36 barrier :)

hm ... almost exactly two seconds off your 999R RM time.

Ducati 999R RM - 1'37.600

Awsome time 750F ;) must be reaching it's limit now - so i've now got to find another 8 tenths somewhere :lol:

I take it thats still pro Mode ? :twisted:

Keep going es nes you'll get there ;) got any new photo's of the Duke ? :D

cheers, teamy :) yep, still pro mode. i borrowed your ghost to chase, and we were about the same pace till the left before t1

i came out of there a little behind you, but got good traction and was ahead by t1

held it together for the rest of the lap, and theres my 38. a few more 10ths in there for me, given enough practice

i've uploaded my ghost to the database, hopefully it'll help you to get those 10ths you want :)

fun combo 8O

Sorry about this but 1:35:566 :lol: :P Used your ghost but did'nt expect to beat it soooo quick :D

There's a 34 there for sure ;)

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/201

whoo, quick! :eek: :clap: something for me to chase, see you there :D

edit: 1:35.329 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/202) :D

1'41.8xx with the moriwaki cbr600rr.

some of you might be interested in this click me (http://www.granturismox.net/vb/showpost.php?p=416419&postcount=93)

Just goes to show es nes how fast that TZ250 was around here as we were runnin low 38's During round 2 of the TTWS

Calla may have hit 37's as i can't confirm as i'm PAL replay but if it were real life i would have thought a 600 should be able to hit sub 40 at least, I'll try and give it a go later time permitting :lol: see ya trackside :D

yeah, valencia and grand valley speedway are my favorite tracks because the litre bike rn, 600rm, and tz250 are all with in 2-3 seconds of each other.

ive not tryed the zx10r or yzf r1 road bikes at valencia yet, but, the cbr1000rr could easyly do 1'42s and i did a 1'41.787 but i best i could do with the gsxr1000 was a low 1'43.

the moriwaki and my cbr600rr times are the road bikes, not the rms though. my fastest 600rm is a 1'40.x with the r6 rm though i know i can beat that time now.

[edit - 1'38.871 - cbr600rr rm. theres probably a 1'37 in her, but, i cant get along with the brakes.

1'38.181 w/ zx6r rm. that bike always feels better, but, i think i just had a lot better set up with the kwack than the honda]

I'm coming to crush this track next. I should get back to Nordschliefe as I haven't played it in weeks (too much effort), but the lesser degree of difficulty in these other tracks makes for good relief.

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Troy Bayliss holds the SBK record for this track at 1:33.758. That's the time I'll be beating, hopefully in short order.

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el captin would be more your style, TU, imo ...

el captin would be more your style, TU, imo ...

I wasn't keen on it the bit I played of it a few weeks ago. I don't particularly like tracks with real long sweepers that alternate left-right, and Cap has a few of 'em. Suzuka is the worst of 'em, IMO. I'll see if Valencia changes my view on that, as it has its share. Suppose we'll see.

Mmm..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/icephreak/th_cbr100rr.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/icephreak/cbr100rr.jpg)


Uncreated

Anyone figure a 1'34 or better being possible on this track?

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I can only assume so. Never tried with a trial bike myself but in my TT prime I could coax a duck around the track about '37, and those time trial bikes feel much faster.

After watching the times steadily decrease around the ring, I have no doubt the group here could race each other into breaking '34.

Times gradually coming down. Currently at 1'35.005.

Perhaps a premature assessment, but Bayliss' 1'33.7xx is all but impossible with a standard race-modified bike in this game. Time will tell.

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Times gradually coming down. Currently at 1'35.005.

Perhaps a premature assessment, but Bayliss' 1'33.7xx is all but impossible with a standard race-modified bike in this game. Time will tell.

Uncreated

Progress. Well into the 1'34s now.

Uncreated

? :?

We all know by now it's Pro Mode but what bike ?

and

What is the time as well into the 34's is impressive but we'd like to know the time :(

Game On :D

We all know by now it's Pro Mode but what bike ?


<--- I only ride the CBR1000RR RM.

I'll give you the final time when I've grown sick and tired of fighting Valencia's ugly curves.

Uncreated

1'34.786. You may pay your Valencia rental fees to me from this point forward.

There's more in it, albeit not much. Perhaps we can get the Europeans assist in edging this one further downward.

I'll upload the replay later.

Uncreated

I will definitely have to pull TT out of retirement to watch that replay. Sounds like you were smoking!

Sounds like you were smoking!

Hell I was. Pushed the bike to its near absolute limit in terms of traction and corner speeds. Valencia is merciless as hell. Corner to corner transitions are ugly and requires extreme effort to set up. Funny thing is if you lose your line for even a millisecond on this track, you get smoked by orders of several bike lengths, as my own ghost so handily demonstrated for me.

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Replay.

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/239

Uncreated

Any suggestions as to which track I should conquer next?

Uncreated

Have you routed the Beginner track yet? I was playing around with it while waiting for your Valencia upload.

Have you routed the Beginner track yet?

Sounds like an idea. I'll do that one.

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I'll be tearing Laguna apart following this track.

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I was wondering when you'd get to LS. If I recall correctly, you and that track have a score to settle regarding the license tests? :lol:

If I recall correctly, you and that track have a score to settle regarding the license tests? :lol:

Ha, yeah. That track robbed me of at least seventeen hours of my life. I may have to postpone it however. There are a few young pups on another forum doing battle on Deep Forest and I might have to dive into the mix. I don't think anyone's cranked out a 1'14. If it's possible, I'll be aiming for it.

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you could try autumn ring full with a goal time of 1'15 or better ...

you could try autumn ring full with a goal time of 1'15 or better ...

That's for the pointer. I'll commit that target to memory and aim for it following Deep Forest.

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damn, you know deep forest is an extremely frustrating track. ive logged a whole bunch of laps there, and still havent bested my time that i did in the SBK series. if you can pull a 1.14, i think itll be a record that stands for quite some time. but thats with not using the curbing at turn 4. to be hones, i dont think you can gain that much time by cutting over the concrete.

if you can pull a 1.14, i think itll be a record that stands for quite some time. but thats with not using the curbing at turn 4.


I was wondering what the convention with that turn was. I was tempted to check out some replays by you guys, but I opted for the safe option and refused to cut across the concrete. Played for a few hours today and ended up with a 1'15.883. Still plenty to go. I figure you could save about 200 milliseconds if you cut across that concrete.

Sure is strange having to run a lap at pretty much partial throttle all the way through. The bumps are tremendous, man.

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Getting close to the magic mark. Currently at 1'15.305, no curbing. There's still some polishing up on a few turns I could do to make it even faster. I'm thinking a 1'14 is a definite possibility.

Uncreated

would it be possible for one of you guys to share your ducati set ups?

its frsutraiting how i do two laps in challenge mode with the r1 rm and do a sloppy 1'38.0, but, struggle to go much faster with a 999r rm with softs.

would it be possible for one of you guys to share your ducati set ups?

PM 750F es nes as the settings are his ;)

Are ya gunning for our times then ? :lol:

i can do 1'35s with the cbr-rrw, but, id like to be able to hit 36s with non 8Hour bikes :)

ello all :) thought i'd give this another go. ended up with t1 - 45.396, t2 - 1:09.540, lap - 1:34.908

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g120/750F-RM/999RMValencia.jpg

Way to go 750F 8O

Nice Piccie with the new improved # ;)

Pressure on eh :P

ended up with t1 - 45.396, t2 - 1:09.540, lap - 1:34.908


Very nice.

Uncreated

Very nice
cheers, it's just got nicer :D

t1 - 0:45.588
t2 - 1:09.473

lap - 1:34.715

Duke 999RM

there's some left yet, i reckon

I am into 1:39 with on board view:P with zx 10 rm and 1:38 on normal. I started to play with on board because it is more real and much harder.

Very Nice 750F just to let you know your best splits on just these 2 Laps give you a possible 1:34:523 :D

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1139/ducatiavatarbt1.gif

Go Duke Go :D

lap - 1:34.715


Well I'll be damned, you bested my time by 0.053s. Did you use my ghost for pace?

I'll be back with a faster time yet. Stay chooned.

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For the sake of comparison, the splits on my 1'34.786 were 0'45.057 and 1'09.183. They would have been somewhat faster if it weren't for a small bit of wheelspin and a rather slow trip around the final sweeper leading to the straight, which by borrowing Celtic's arithmetic, would put me around 1'34.250.

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Gatecrasher :D

Done a bit of fiddlin with form :P

NOW INTO THE 34's - so i'm back @ the party via the back door :P

0:45:736
1:09:609
1:34:978 Getting there bit by bit ;)

EDIT :
0:45:776
1:09:770
1:34:771 NOW THIS IS GETTING CLOSE :D All 3 of us within 0:071 sec 8O

Comparison : Best splits give 1:34:610

Losing alot of time in the first sector if i can sort this out a perfect lap may give 1:33:xxx

I am into 1:39 with on board view:P with zx 10 rm and 1:38 on normal. I started to play with on board because it is more real and much harder.

Welcome to the Boards SRAD :D

I believe we all use onboard and Pro Mode - IMO as you try to attain those last possible tenths you have to be onboard as with follow cam you just can't hit your braking points with any accuracy but you may be able to see the apex better with follow view and this is why it takes alot of practice to get a whole circuit perfect with onboard view.

Then there's Pro Mode itself of course trying to get the best grip available is frustrating - spin her up and you see the ghost pull a couple of tenths on you :(

One thing that's become clear to me is you two gain on me A LOT during the last third of the race. I'm ahead of both of you by an average of 400 ms, then you hit the afterburners and catch up.

Well, we'll just have to fix that.

Onboard and pro here.

Uncreated

One thing that's become clear to me is you two gain on me A LOT during the last third of the race. I'm ahead of both of you by an average of 400 ms, then you hit the afterburners and catch up.

Yeah that CBR seems very quick up to T1 :?

The only thing is if I change the settings for more maneuverability it would be at the cost of the rest of the lap - but half a second is alot TU

my fastest final sector is 25:001 - Compared to your 25:603

Losing alot of time in the first sector if i can sort this out a perfect lap may give 1:33:xxx

Avoid overbraking and keep a very tight line through the first turn. This is critically important. Accelerate early and hard out of third gear.

Carve the the green and orange run-off somewhat to maintain a very fast transition around corner three. Strive to round off your entrance into corner four as much as possible -- this will ensure you a high exit speed out.

Coast as much as you can around turn five in third gear before you shift down. To do this you have to brake well in advance (don't run in hot). Maintain high revs throughout.

Again, avoid overbraking and coast through turn six leading to the first sector checkpoint. Accelerate early and maintain a very tight line.

Uncreated

I agree with turn 1 better to be a little slower in and then power out :D

I find turn 2 to be the clincher for the first sector my line is deep in and square it off and fire out and upright as qiuckly as possible over the curb for turn 3 keep it tight for turn 4 - turn 5 is similar to 2 as I cut in late off the edge of the curb and the hit apex and then turn 6 is another apex you have to hit.

Hope that makes sense ;)

Just out of interest TU Whats your terminal speed before Turn 1 as the Dukes is around 185 mph

Hope that makes sense ;)

Most certainly does. Even though we can't view each others' replays, I'm certain our technique doesn't differ a whole lot at the pace we're running.

Terminal speed before turn one is 183 miles per hour.

Uncreated

Not much in that either then :D

What about speed across the start line as my Duke hits 159 or 160 if i nailed the final turn when starting a flying lap ?

What about speed across the start line..

Mid 156 past the start line.

Uncreated

Thats interesting as that would put me 10 to 15 yards ahead of you into turn 1, this leads me to believe that your CBR is a little better balanced as she seems to coast to corners a little quicker.

It's just a bummer we can't share replays :(

I've been wondering if the 7Star or Tiger could Crack the 33's but when i've tried them they seem a little slower than the Duke Possibly due to set up time mind :lol:

Thats interesting as that would put me 10 to 15 yards ahead of you into turn 1, this leads me to believe that your CBR is a little better balanced as she seems to coast to corners a little quicker.


I think that's the result of a technique honed during the hundreds of hours I pumped into the Nordschliefe. I rarely pin my brakes down; rather most times I feather the front enough to adequately slow down without fatally killing off my transition speed. I'm also rarely below ninety percent throttle and I rev well into redline during upshifts and purposely power wheely a lot to secure a small jump in accel.

My rider form is set far more for maneuverability than speed. Here's an example of it:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/icephreak/th_cbr100rr.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/icephreak/cbr100rr.jpg)


Uncreated

Welcome to the Boards SRAD :D

I believe we all use onboard and Pro Mode - IMO as you try to attain those last possible tenths you have to be onboard as with follow cam you just can't hit your braking points with any accuracy but you may be able to see the apex better with follow view and this is why it takes alot of practice to get a whole circuit perfect with onboard view.

Then there's Pro Mode itself of course trying to get the best grip available is frustrating - spin her up and you see the ghost pull a couple of tenths on you :(


Thanks on welome, I use on board with dashboard and windshield cause it is more real and I can se front end movements of bike... Keep it real:D

Your style must be alot like 750's as when I watch his replays he's always so smooth and hitting all apexes with the bike never getting out of shape :D

Whereas me - Well i'm just Mr aggressive even correcting lines mid corner trying to keep the bike on the limit between traction and spinning as you well know already :D

Keep it Going SRAD as it's taken me 3 months to catch this lot up and i think i've still got some to catch up :D

Whereas me - Well i'm just Mr aggressive even correcting lines mid corner trying to keep the bike on the limit between traction and spinning as you well know already :D


My throttle work is extremely smooth and high-revving -- my traction rarely breaks. I tend to run hot into turns a lot, which is something I'm trying to smooth out by braking earlier and maintaining a moderately high mid-turn speed and powering out. It's a very subtle optical illusion indeed when you brake before your own ghost and end up smoking it on exit. The change in technique seems to be paying off.

Uncreated

That's the oldest saying in Motorbike racing "Slow in Fast Out" ;)

Anyways catch ya later as I have a feeling I may have to :lol:

hi everyone :) it's all happening here, eh? 8O well i havn't beaten my best this evening, but i'm getting lots of
<35's now, so that's progress of some sort :D

i had a t2 time of 1:09.1xx, but couldn't hold on to the lap. i'm enjoying the challenge we have going here :D

i had a t2 time of 1:09.1xx, but couldn't hold on to the lap. i'm enjoying the challenge we have going here :D

See Celtic? Even the big Duke can put out. 750's second checkpoint run is on par with my CBR's. Heh.

I haven't had the chance to fire up the PS2 yet, but I'll get to it over the course of the next day or so. Initially I thought a 1'33 was going to be impossible, but now it seems like a remote possibility. We'll have to be mightily on the ball however, and with you two knowing how tough it is to put out 1'34.7xx as it is, it'll take a hero's effort to blast away an extra 3/4ths of a second more.

Uncreated

As it stands at present if one of the Dukes can hit a 1:08:99X t2 time i recon a 1:33 is a big possibility cause remember i've already done a 25:001 last sector time ;)

1:08:99
0:25:00
1:33:99 Total :twisted:

1:33:99 Total :twisted:

Remains to be seen if it could be done. :)

Uncreated

I've just ran the Tiger for a comparison with a basic setup that would fit the bill and found that the Tiger is so easy to ride compared to the Duke it just seems much more forgiving.

Anyway after 20 laps :P

0:46:126
1:10:191
1:35:563 :D

A shade under my old PB and she's not even set up :twisted:

EDIT :
0:45:852
1:09:510
1:34:748

is using the ysp yamaha cheating? after about 20 or so laps, i ran a 1.34.670. its not a bad bike, but this track feels too small for this big a bike, only using part throttle for most of the track. :eek: umm, yeah. ill have a replay up in a bit.

edit, now im down to a 1.34.416. (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/274)

is using the ysp yamaha cheating?

I'd be inclined to say no provided you consider the 8HR and the standard race-modifieds as separate machine classes.

Uncreated

i watched your replay uncreated, and i have to say, very nice! and damn you bike gets off the corners well, allows you to get the drive to the next turn! now if only yamaha can figure that out...well, rossi is working on it, lol.

So it looks like Troy's lap time may be beaten after all :P

Not on the class of bikes we hoped for though

Nice time Calla and from what we know there's probably a second or so left in it yet if you only ran her for an hour or so last night ;)

BTW It is cheating :lol:

CORSER TOPS VALENCIA WSB QUALIFYING
Friday, April 21, 2006

Troy Corser has set the fastest time in today's World Superbike Championship qualifying in Valencia, Spain.

The reigning World Champion posted a time of 1:34.920 on his Alstare Suzuki Corona Extra GSX-R1000, which was just over a tenth-of-a-second under the lap record.


http://teamsuzuki.com/RoadRacing/News.aspx?id=52209e51-2adb-4fd4-b8a9-9e47539e3375

So Does This Mean We've Broken The Lap Record Already For These Bikes :D

From TROYBAYLISS.com - http://www.troybayliss.com/news.php?NewsPage=news_index_01.php

Troy's WSBK Circuit Record:

In 2006, Troy wins both races at Valencia..

In 2002, Troy Bayliss set the Superpole Record for Valencia with a time of 1’34.814. The same year Troy took pole position and recorded the fastest lap of Race1 (1'35.639) also winning both races.

MotoGP Record : Sete Gibernau - 1:31:874

i watched your replay uncreated, and i have to say, very nice! and damn you bike gets off the corners well..

Thanks!

As effortless as the lap looked, lemme tell ya, that sucker took an extreme effort to pull off.

Uncreated

I could swear Bayliss once pulled a 1'33.7xx during testing, unless that was a MotoGP record. In that case, I guess we have broken the record. Someone should do one of those real vs Tourist Trophy vids the GT4 guys do. It would be awesome to watch.

Damn fine effort fellas. We're the best.

Uncreated

Last night I blew the dust off the old PS2 and cranked out a few laps at Valencia (in honor of this weekends race, ya know). Best lap: high 1:45s.

Out of curiosity I peek at the times posted here. You guys are SICK! :twisted:

You guys are SICK! :twisted:

And we refuse to take our medicine, baby.

Uncreated

And we refuse to take our medicine, baby.

Uncreated


this is my medicine...:lol:

Celtic: i was fooling around with the spot race, with the ysp, ya know, and i decided that since all the action was over here at valencia, that i would hop on a cargo plane and join in on the fun. maybe ill have a r1 rm shipped over in a few days.

Celtic: i was fooling around with the spot race, with the ysp, ya know, and i decided that since all the action was over here at valencia, that i would hop on a cargo plane and join in on the fun. maybe ill have a r1 rm shipped over in a few days.

No Problem mate as i've now got a new PB of 1:34:748 on the Tiger :D

The thing is I know the Duke has a low 34 in her but as yet it eludes me :(

Back on the Duke Tomorrow :D

If only we had MotoGP Bikes mabe in TT2 Eh

The best Valencia sbk time is Neil Hodgson 1:34.633 on second free practise in 2003.

ello :) is it generally thought (or known) that the 8hr bikes will be quicker over a given lap than a 1000rm?

if so, i think once i get one more gain on the duke, i'll hop on an 8hr special and have a go :D

Cheers for that SRAD :D

Valencia Round 17: Valencia, Spain Track length: 4.005 km Opened: 1999

MotoGP Records ----- Probably out of our League

Fastest Lap Ever: 1' 31.002 (Valentino Rossi, 2006) ----- Best So Far On Any Bike- Celtic - 1:33:903 - Moriwaki CBR 1000 8Hr - Pro Mode
MotoGP lap record: 1' 33.043 (Marco Melandri, 2005)
Last year MotoGP winner: Marco Melandri


WSB Records

Fastest Lap Ever: 1' 34.633 (Neil Hodgson, 2003) RM Bike Record ---- Best so far - Celtic - 1:34:146 - Honda CBR1000RM - Pro Mode
WSB lap record: 1' 35.007 (Neil Hodgson, 2003)
Last year WSB winner: James Toseland, Noriyuki Haga

if i get sime time tonight, i will try a little experiment. ill go to the ring, and on the straight, ill stat at the 8 minute mark, and see how fast each bike accelerates, a standard 1000, a 1000 rm, and an 8hr. all the same make. ill do each to the end of the bridge, or something like that.

i would think the 8hr bikes are going to be the fastest in the game, but power isnt everything (to borrow a phrase from pirelli.)

id think the cbr-rrw would be the fastest. it almost feels like a tz250 handling wise and pulls like a frieght train ...

id think the cbr-rrw would be the fastest

That bike represents the pinnacle of cheating. LOL!

Uncreated

why?

Sort of a thread joke. It's a nice bike; I just can't get it to cooperate with me. Rides like mush no matter how hard I set the suspension. Pulls hard as hell though.

Uncreated

interesting, i figured itd be eager to co-operate with you after you meantioned before that your set ups are generally soft and high.

when i reach a peak with normal RM's, i can usually take 2-3 seconds off that time with cbr-rrw or the ysp & presto (with the execption of el cap)

interesting, i figured itd be eager to co-operate with you after you meantioned before that your set ups are generally soft and high.


That's true, but the 7 Honda feels too soft and not particularly stable at any setting. I don't think I've lowsided a bike more than I have that one.

Uncreated

weird, the only time ive really had any stababilty problems with the cbr-rrw was at bumpy tracks like nordschliefe and deep forest. everywhere else she just rails around corners.

but, if you want a real low side machine, go to deep forest with the zx-10r rm. the fairing and foot pegs drag in every little dip, but, its fun bike at tracks like grand valley speedway.

I am into 1:37s with full on board view (ZX 10), I will try some laps with tz 250 and tz 125 it could be intersting.

1'34.759.

Uncreated

This may interest you SRAD if your planning on running the TZ250 :-

http://www.motogpboards.com/showthread.php?t=554

Round 2 of the TTWS series we recently completed
and the times were set on Mediums :D

Great times for "non factory" gp machine:D Guys are you watching GP in Valencia tomorow, we had great qualify today.

New RM Record :D

Ducati 999RM

0:45:408
1:09:300
1:34:597 :D

And that beats Neil Hodgson's Lap Record of 1:34:633 of 2003 :P
Now to get 100% completion in TT and I can add another 0 to my number :D

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/ducati/999rfilaracingmodify/773237/REPLAY.DAT

1:34:597 :D


I'd like to know what sort of black magic you people do in that final sector that makes your laptimes so damn fast. Frankly I own in first sector (45.031 fastest), but I absolutely choke going around that ugly bend before the straight. Rest assured though that when I learn said black magic, y'all had best watch out now. :)

Uncreated

im in the same boat man. i usually hit high 1.08s, or a very low 1.09, and i turn similar times, even though im up about 3-5 tenths before the last sector.

New RM Record :D

Ducati 999RM

0:45:408
1:09:300
1:34:597 :D

And that beats Neil Hodgson's Lap Record of 1:34:633 of 2003 :P
Now to get 100% completion in TT and I can add another 0 to my number :D

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/ducati/999rfilaracingmodify/773237/REPLAY.DAT
well done teamy :D 8O :clap:

If you noticed lads I lost best part of 3 tenths in the final sector :-

25:297 compared with my other previous best sector of 25:001

But saying that with the 25:001 final sector I did pinch the maximum of curb through the Flip Flop before the last bend even to the point of pinching some grass but as it was only one tyres width I classed as clean.

I can't tell you how annoying it is being tenths up on that ghost only to be blasted out the last corner up the straight :eek:

The 1:34:597 Lap was Perfect up to the Last corner where I missed the apex by about 8 feet :( probably losing 1 or 2 tenths.

If I ever complete the game I think I have earn't the right to stick the #100 on the Fila Duke :D

i must say, i cant believe some of the times yous are getting out of the duke. i am consistantly 1.5-2 seconds off the pace with it.

I'm also surprised. When I started the game, I actually used the Duke for awhile while learning Nordschliefe. I got to a point where I got the impression there was something missing in 'er. It just didn't seem as fast as some of the other race-modifieds.

But back on topic, I might not be able to gain on you in that final sector, Celtic, so my clincher will come in the first and second sectors. I'm not driving the nail in the coffin yet; I will conquer you. :)

Uncreated

IMO judging by your sector times you may already be maxed out in sectors 1 and 2 and you may have to nail down that last sector after all ;)

If you do beat my time you deserve it so I will wish you all the best :D

But you can't call me a lucky European this time TU :lol:

I've accomplished my goal of beating the current real world lap record on same said Bike so as far as i'm concerned i'm hopping on a jet plane to Motegi ;)

0:45:408
1:09:300
1:34:597 :D


Down to 1'34.707. Still losing a monster load of time in that final sector.

0'45.366
1'09.284
1'34.707

Uncreated

Victory. 100% clean.

0'45.082
1'09.054
1'34.551

(25.497 final sector)

Will reply with replay later.

Uncreated

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/280

Uncreated

believe it or not my fastest time is: 1'33.603 on the Honda
Semi pro/ failure conditions off (but i'll proof that it was a clean run)

believe it or not my fastest time is: 1'33.603 on the Honda
Semi pro/ failure conditions off (but i'll proof that it was a clean run)

Sweet... I'll give a wack at it sooner or later.

Victory. 100% clean.

0'45.082
1'09.054
1'34.551

(25.497 final sector)

Will reply with replay later.

Uncreated

VICTORY ? - Who waved the Chequered Flag :lol:

I'll have to come back testing.... BTW now got a new form :D



Welcome to the boards mthielen I believe you may find the times here a bit more of a challenge :D
BTW all times on the boards are in pro mode ;)

That 1:33 is mighty impressive though even if it is semi pro - and if the Uncreated calls you a cheat take no notice :lol:

That 1:33 is mighty impressive though even if it is semi pro - and if the Uncreated calls you a cheat take no notice :lol:

Ha!

Uncreated

Treat for you all. Full Valencia race, onboard with Rossi.

Camera angle isn't the best during the first few minutes; changes to better angles afterward.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=9028556382557193838&q=valencia+onboard

Uncreated

I believe that mabe last years Race from the red and white colours :D

This video would be perfect for one of those real versus Tourist Trophy vids. If only I had the capture equipment.

Cool thing is, the lines I run in my replay are pretty much identical to his. Only difference I notice is his bike doesn't spin up as much as my Honda did; he seems to be a gear lower than my run at every point around the track and at a lot lower revs too. Guess that's because the bike is that much faster.

Uncreated

This may interest you TU about gears or anyone else for that matter :D

Awesome, thanks. Interesting read. I tend to believe I run the Fireblade exactly as they describe in the article, as I don't have any problems whatsoever pulling hard through corners. The CBR is described as an "ultra short stroke engine" in the in-game blurbs (12000 RPM redline), so the natural inclination is to wind it up hard as hell (well past redline most times for me) for the best tactile feedback. Works like a charm and she screams like hell.

Here's one for you. You may have already heard.

Rossi smashes Valencia lap record
October 28, 2006 - CNN
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/SPORT/10/28/motorcycling.spain.reut/index.html

Uncreated

I'm Now Running 45:1xx to sector T1 just have to string the rest of the lap together using my new form :D

UPDATE - still on the Duke RM

0:45:584 :(
1:09:290
1:34:517 A very low 34 is now possible - I hit at least 6 x 34:5xx in a 2 hour stint with a second fastest lap of 1:34:529

Last sector time of 25:227 proving my new form is just as fast as before :D

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/ducati/999rfilaracingmodify/396994/REPLAY.DAT

Oh man, nice one.

Away from my PS2 now, but I'll be back atcha.

Uncreated

My life is complete, I have seen Rossi pull on his asscrack.


Yeah... definitely better shots after the start.

Some good footage of Marco starting about 1/3 through. Definitely worth a watch for anybody wondering how it feels.

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2952/ducatifilabanner850nf9.jpg


Finally Cracked It :P

0:45:308
1:09:109
1:34:174 :twisted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca4bkbrgMAE

And I believe a 33 is a distinct possibility :D

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/ducati/999rfilaracingmodify/479189/REPLAY.DAT

Now Running @ MotoGP Level - That time would have given me 16th in free practice 1 and 17th in FP 2 and 3 this year 8O

once you find all the little secrets in this track, youll be in the 33's for sure.

once you find all the little secrets in this track, youll be in the 33's for sure.

All I have to do personally is figure out that dastardly final sector and I'm sure I'd run away with this for good. :)

Uncreated

All I have to do personally is figure out that dastardly final sector and I'm sure I'd run away with this for good. :)

Uncreated

3 tenths is alot at this stage - you may have to resort to fiddling with form as I did :D

3 tenths is alot at this stage - you may have to resort to fiddling with form as I did :D

We'll see. If I maintain my current pace in the first and second sectors and chop about 100 milliseconds off my final sector time, I might catch up.

Uncreated

Problem is i've got a sniff of a 33 and I feel hungry mmmmmmmm :lol:

Problem is i've got a sniff of a 33 and I feel hungry mmmmmmmm :lol:

By all means, go ahead. If you've left even the slightest amount of crawlspace in your execution, I will slip under it. :)

Uncreated

Crawlspace - Execution - I will slip under it.

You really are the Uncreated aren't you :lol:

here you go teamy, as requested :)

celtic's 1:34.174 lap (youtube video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca4bkbrgMAE)

great going :clap:

Cheers 750F Nice One Mate :D

Now saved to my you-tube collection ;)

thanks again priceless 8O

nice lap that is. :rockon:

Cheers Calla ;)

Honda CBR 1000RM

1:34:433 :D after an hours shakedown

and there's allot more left yet a possible 33 in the CBR as only run for an hour without any decent setup used my R1 settings from Motegi and set the gears - found that gears have to be slightly high to get good drive out of the corners.

PS I'll post replay tomorrow as it's too late now but 100% clean as always ;)

Heh, love the way you post that Youtube video, like the record won't be beaten or anything. :)

Been busy test driving a new PS2 game, but I'll get back to Valencia soon.

Uncreated

The You Tube Vid was for the benefit of you NTSC boys ;)

Now you've seen my lines TU any different from yours ?

I do like the YT video, glad to finally see what our PALs in the UK are up to. I gave it 5 stars. I would have given it 4.5 because of the atrocity that was turn 5, so I just rounded up.

Turn 5 Looks slow Red Frog but when you race a ghost that hits the outer curb after turn five believe me the tighter you can exit the faster the time to T1 ;)

IE : the bike gets upright a lot quicker and your also set up earlier for turn 6 resulting in an overall gain of about 2 tenths compared to a line of apex to outer curb around Turn 5 :D

I find if you run wide to the curb after turn 5 you end up really fighting the bike to get over to the other side of the track to round turn 6.

Hope that makes sense ;)

Cheers for the 5 Stars BTW 8O

Now you've seen my lines TU any different from yours ?

A LOT different, mostly in the second half of the track. You cut deep into all of those those rubber apexes; the only ones I chop are turn three and the two before the right turn that leads to the second checkpoint and the one directly after it.

Uncreated

Turn 5 Looks slow Red Frog but when you race a ghost that hits the outer curb after turn five believe me the tighter you can exit the faster the time to T1 ;)

Very true. One does not realize how important maintaining tight lines are until your own ghost blazes past you because you wandered six inchies two wide.

Uncreated

wow, i actually use all the track, except for the last turn. after turn 5 you have to drift the bike over to the right while on the brakes and set up for the left. then tip it in, and get on the throttle right away. but, with that said, obviously, both ways work, as everyone here seems to be pretty close time wise.

wow, i actually use all the track, except for the last turn..

As do I. It's a fine line between hitting the apex spot on and holding it and accelerating out of the bend as soon as possible while maintaining as direct a line down the track as manageable. The times I'm overtaken is when I miss the apex by even the slightest amount.

Uncreated

I do like the YT video, glad to finally see what our PALs in the UK are up to. I gave it 5 stars. I would have given it 4.5 because of the atrocity that was turn 5, so I just rounded up.


haha...you are so funny...Pals...:think:

hhmmm that would explain a lot. i was trying to figure out how you were so smooth on the throttle while I have to tap dance on the buttons to try and maintain a constant speed going into and coming out of corners. I would use the thumbstick for the throttle but don't like how it's tied into braking as there are times where I want to stay on the throttle and do a little trail braking


alright kept throwing it away at the end again but just got a clean 1'37.686 still not a perfect lap but it will do for now. blew 3 corners pretty bad so if I can manage to clean those up I think a 36 is possible.

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/yamaha/yzfr1racingmodify/376293/REPLAY.DAT

Hi!

After reading your post I started to manage a good lap at Valencia. My best time this mornig was a 1.38,234 with the same bike as you. I agree when you say a 1.36 high is possible. Hope to get it during the weekend.

regards
Andy

I agree when you say a 1.36 high is possible. Hope to get it during the weekend.


In case you missed the rest of the thread, we've already shown mid to low 1'34s are possible. Keep practicing and join the 1'34 club.

Uncreated

Welcome to the boards Suzukibiker :D

Best thing for you to do is load up a PAL Replay from TTbikeism Replay database and race the ghosts you will probably find that the ghost will drag you along a little.

The R1 should be good for a 1:35:xxx or even 1:34:xxx as with the other RM's

Pal Replay For Current Record
http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/f...189/REPLAY.DAT

http://www.motogpboards.com/showthread.php?t=283 Thread On How To Load and Save Replays ;)

You are right! I completely missed the rest of the thread! Now I know what to do during next week! You guys are rather challenging! I will do my best.

Welcome to the boards Suzukibiker :D

Best thing for you to do is load up a PAL Replay from TTbikeism Replay database and race the ghosts you will probably find that the ghost will drag you along a little.

The R1 should be good for a 1:35:xxx or even 1:34:xxx as with the other RM's

Pal Replay For Current Record
http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/f...189/REPLAY.DAT

http://www.motogpboards.com/showthread.php?t=283 Thread On How To Load and Save Replays ;)
Hi Celtic!

May be you can give me some advice how to manage a 1.34. What mode do you use? Arcade with quick tuning or pro mode? And if pro mode, what settings do you take?

Thanks and good luck
Andy

Welcome to the boards Suzukibiker :D

Best thing for you to do is load up a PAL Replay from TTbikeism Replay database and race the ghosts you will probably find that the ghost will drag you along a little.

The R1 should be good for a 1:35:xxx or even 1:34:xxx as with the other RM's

Pal Replay For Current Record
http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/f...189/REPLAY.DAT

http://www.motogpboards.com/showthread.php?t=283 Thread On How To Load and Save Replays ;)


the current record link doesnt work.

but you can go to the ttbikesim site, and choose to search by track, and look up valencia, and check the more info, and see which one is # 189

i believe most of these runs are done in pro mode, in TT>Free practice> Free run.

Today i first tried valencia in pro mode and i always blow it in the final sector
so far 1'35.035 but this will inproof as soon as i can find the right lines in the sector

new record will follow soon

BTW i didn't know you were riding in arcade mode i always was ridin in free practise

We Do Ride In Free Practice

I don't think i've even visited the arcade mode yet and I've had the game for 4 months :lol:

As for settings Andy thats one thing your going to have to find yourself and all bikes are slightly different

Myself I have compiled an Excel spreadsheet of previous settings used for each track and bike combo which I use as a starting point when I revisit any track :D so I class them as trade secrets :lol:

Hi Celtic!

My yesterdays best was a 1.37.231 after 2 or 3 hours! I tried to download some ghosts, but I could not transfer to my PS2. Today I will try again with other bikes.

Why not using Arcade mode? Because more 20hps and less weight should give you some advantage or not?

Do I get you right when I say you are always using TT-mode and then choosing time attack? Or do you pick up some kind of race doing free practice?

However it is - I will go on working out my skills.

See you
Andy

Read the replay thread and you should be able to figure it out Andy :D

http://www.motogpboards.com/showthread.php?t=283

Hint : try and use a ghost that's about half a second faster than your current best time and you will find your times should drop or you should be able to figure out a better set up and gearing.

keep at it as it's quite a steep learning curve at the start but your current time is very good considering the amount of time you have had the game ;)

i'm inproving fast to so watch out CELTIC,

after just 2 days of testing on Valencia in pro-mode i'm already riding 1'34.6XX

Maybe i'll be getting close to your time very soon :D

What Bike Are You Using ?

The RM 1000's are classed differently from the 8Hr Specials.

and about your Replays you do realise that you can save the best lap replay instead of saving the whole session ;)

Just makes it easier for the viewer when you don't have to watch or fast forward through 4 or 5 laps to get to the one you need to watch :)

Message to TU You still hold the Honda RM record as the replay of the lap I posted before has gone missing :cry:

I think I must have overwritten it :roll:

I'll just have to do it again :lol:

i'm using the ducati for the moment, i'm going to let the 8hr bikes in my garage for a while sinds i don't really enjoy riding them :D

Go for it mthielen as it get allot harder from now on - I've been back to it a couple of times got a few 34:4xx but as yet not hit another lap like it :P

Tried the arcade mode for an hour this afternoon and hit a 34:2xx but that was with max power and min weight, the bike behaves allot better - easier to turn and stay on line but funny thing is it seems to be slightly detuned and sluggish especially out of all the slow corners but up the main straight hitting 168 over the line :P

Read the replay thread and you should be able to figure it out Andy :D

http://www.motogpboards.com/showthread.php?t=283

Hint : try and use a ghost that's about half a second faster than your current best time and you will find your times should drop or you should be able to figure out a better set up and gearing.

keep at it as it's quite a steep learning curve at the start but your current time is very good considering the amount of time you have had the game ;)
Hi Celtic!

Thanks for your advices. I will try - but may be you can tell me what brake settings do you use? With 10/3 the bike is running wide out of corners, so I tried a 6/1 and it feels better. What is your experience?

regards
Andy

Depends on the bike and also personal preference, Personally though I use 8/2 on the duke @ Valencia, used to use 10 front most of the time but now reeled in a bit of aggression to become a little smoother but others on the boards prefer the front to be around the 6 mark.

Set the back to as much as you can get away with, mines down to 2 as with the rear set at 3 I found sometimes it would lock up on the final corner forcing me wide a ruining another lap :P

Thanks a lot, Celtic! I hope it will help me.

Read the replay thread and you should be able to figure it out Andy :D

http://www.motogpboards.com/showthread.php?t=283

Hint : try and use a ghost that's about half a second faster than your current best time and you will find your times should drop or you should be able to figure out a better set up and gearing.

keep at it as it's quite a steep learning curve at the start but your current time is very good considering the amount of time you have had the game ;)
Hi Celtic!

This morning I did a 1.35.724 on a 8h Honda 1000 RRM. I am very pleased so far. Now its getting tough I know, but I still want to join the 1.34 club. My next session will be tomorrow morning.

See you
Andy:lol:

Read the replay thread and you should be able to figure it out Andy :D

http://www.motogpboards.com/showthread.php?t=283

Hint : try and use a ghost that's about half a second faster than your current best time and you will find your times should drop or you should be able to figure out a better set up and gearing.

keep at it as it's quite a steep learning curve at the start but your current time is very good considering the amount of time you have had the game ;)
I have a problem with opening DAT.files with my PC. No programm does work. I tried Power DVD 5, Nero and Media-Player. So I have no chance to have a look at the replays.

Who can help?

regards
Andy

The DAT Files Don't Work On A PC !!!! Only On the PS2

Instead Download DAT File to a USB storage device and upload onto PS2 Replay Database and watch on your PS2.

Note : You will Need A Folder With The Name PDI On The USB device and also note you can only transfer 1 REPLAY.DAT file at a time ;) If there is more than 1 replay file in the PDI folder the PS2 comes up with an error message

Once loaded into Tourist Trophy Just highlight and play as if it was one of your Own

You will Only be able to watch PAL replays as the NTSC replays Don't Work on the pal version of the game ;)

Message to TU You still hold the Honda RM record as the replay of the lap I posted before has gone missing :cry:


Celtic? What the heck happened? Was it your 1'34.1xx that went missing?

If so, you still hold the record, because you have the lap documented via Youtube.

Uncreated

The DAT Files Don't Work On A PC !!!! Only On the PS2

Instead Download DAT File to a USB storage device and upload onto PS2 Replay Database and watch on your PS2.

Note : You will Need A Folder With The Name PDI On The USB device and also note you can only transfer 1 REPLAY.DAT file at a time ;) If there is more than 1 replay file in the PDI folder the PS2 comes up with an error message

Once loaded into Tourist Trophy Just highlight and play as if it was one of your Own

You will Only be able to watch PAL replays as the NTSC replays Don't Work on the pal version of the game ;)

Thanks for advices!

I did everything you told me. I uploaded a file with my best Valencia time on the 7Honda 1000rrm. May be you can tell me if you are able to open and to watch. I for myself downloaded a file in a PDI folder (European version), but my PS2 is not willing to open (can not find such file). Now its interessting to know if others can open my files.

Waiting for answer
Andy

I for myself downloaded a file in a PDI folder (European version), but my PS2 is not willing to open (can not find such file).

Make sure the replay file in that PDI folder is called REPLAY.DAT. Anything else and your PS2 won't recognize it. Failing that, you might want to try loading one of the NTSC replays on the off chance your PS2 might be of that persuasion. Doubt it based on where you live, but it's worth the try.

Uncreated

TU See Post #172

The Replay I lost was of the Honda 1000rm as I hit a 1:34:433 funny thing is I hit a purple patch very late one night seemed so easy but since have only managed a 1:34:6xx with the Honda :P

Never mind these things happen :lol:

Make sure the replay file in that PDI folder is called REPLAY.DAT. Anything else and your PS2 won't recognize it. Failing that, you might want to try loading one of the NTSC replays on the off chance your PS2 might be of that persuasion. Doubt it based on where you live, but it's worth the try.

Uncreated
Thanks a lot! Now it works! I tried another file and I was successful.

regards
Andy

Hey

I'm joining the 1.34 club8O
I did 1.34,9 on CBR 8Hrs:D, I'm hoping on low 34. Can you give some advice on
setup, because whatever I do makes bike worse so I run on default setup

Hey

I'm joining the 1.34 club8O
I did 1.34,9 on CBR 8Hrs:D, I'm hoping on low 34. Can you give some advice on
setup, because whatever I do makes bike worse so I run on default setup
I´m joining the club too! With a 1.34.956. Changing the gear ratios helped me a lot!

TU See Post #172

The Replay I lost was of the Honda 1000rm as I hit a 1:34:433 funny thing is I hit a purple patch very late one night seemed so easy but since have only managed a 1:34:6xx with the Honda :P

Never mind these things happen :lol:

http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/images/smilies/bong.gif hit a purple patch, eh...just kidding ya man.

i know exactly what thats like. one day, or night as the case may be, it seems so easy, and you are knocking out killer times. then you cant get that pace back, and its so damn frustrating.

im running low 35's with the honda 1000rm. very stable bike, especially after jumping off the yamaha r1 rm.

http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/images/smilies/bong.gif hit a purple patch, eh...just kidding ya man.

i know exactly what thats like. one day, or night as the case may be, it seems so easy, and you are knocking out killer times. then you cant get that pace back, and its so damn frustrating.

im running low 35's with the honda 1000rm. very stable bike, especially after jumping off the yamaha r1 rm.
Keep on running! It's only a question of time and patience. Last night it took me about 3hrs till I cracked the 1.35. But after, I felt very pleased and satisfied.

Since I joined this forum my skills became a rise, because of u guys given me the challenge.

Is it actually possible to download a ghost from the PS2 theatre? And if, how does it work?

kind regards from good old germany
Andy:D

actually, what you can do, is download a replay from ttbikesim. then search (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/search.php) for the valencia circuit, and downnload a quick lap onto your PS2. then, when you go into the free run, or whatever its called between the different versions, before you start your run, scroll to the right on the menus at the bottom, and you will see a "load best lap", or something similar. then pick the lap you just uploaded onto your PS2, and you should be set. when you start your run, the ghost will appear.

i'm going to bring celtic's record done one of these days, i just found the right line in the last sector which is 0.4 secs faster then my previous record which is 1'34.4XX

now i only have to combine it with the rest :D

but i can't play alot these days cause of school which takes a lot of my free time

i'm going to bring celtic's record done one of these days, i just found the right line in the last sector which is 0.4 secs faster then my previous record which is 1'34.4XX

now i only have to combine it with the rest :D

but i can't play alot these days cause of school which takes a lot of my free time


Good luck racer! If you can crack Celtics record, you will find a place in TT-History! It´s a very hard thing to do and it takes a lot of patience and concentration. After my yesterdays nightsession (1.34.956), I´m tired of Valencia. May be during the weekend I will try again.

keep up
Andy

Hey

I wonder, do you lower overall gearing or you set each gear at the time?

if you are looking for that last tenth or two, you will need to set each gear for different parts of the track. i.e, i put second tall, and make third fairly close to second, so i can take turn 3 in 3rd, and not have to upshift while leaned over.

NEW 8Hr Special Lap Record

Moriwaki CBR 1000 8Hr

1:34:138 :D

Splits and Replay To Follow - Edit See Below :D :dance:

funny how no one has posted a lap record for a track on anything other than a yamaha or honda.

very impressive time Celtic. 33's are possible for sure with an 8hr bike.

Hmmmm are you forgetting about my Duke time only now beaten by the Moriwaki and also the Beginner course lap record - but is that a real lap :P

Probably something to do with far east programmers :lol: but imo just compares to real life ;)

CLUB 33 NOW OPEN

Moriwaki CBR 1000 8Hr - Pro Mode

0:45:056
1:08:785
1:33:903 :D Finally Cracked It 8O

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/moriwaki/cbr1000rrmoriwaki/722338/REPLAY.DAT

Uh oh.... we got a new sheriff in town :D .

Hmmmm are you forgetting about my Duke time only now beaten by the Moriwaki and also the Beginner course lap record - but is that a real lap :P

Probably something to do with far east programmers :lol: but imo just compares to real life ;)

sorry, i meant on the 8hr bikes. lol, i am aware of your duke time...ive been trying to beat it now for about, oh, 2 weeks straight. :)



CLUB 33 NOW OPEN


Moriwaki CBR 1000 8Hr - Pro Mode

0:45:056
1:08:785
1:33:903 Finally Cracked It


awesome time!! mad props. :twisted: :twisted:

CLUB 33 NOW OPEN

Moriwaki CBR 1000 8Hr - Pro Mode

0:45:056
1:08:785
1:33:903 :D Finally Cracked It 8O

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/moriwaki/cbr1000rrmoriwaki/722338/REPLAY.DAT
woohoo, nicely done! 8O :clap: i gave the moriwaki cbr a try last night, and found it very good

whether i'll get a '33 with it remains to be seen though :lol:

again, well done celtic :D

shall i put your replay up on youtube?

CLUB 33 NOW OPEN

Moriwaki CBR 1000 8Hr - Pro Mode

0:45:056
1:08:785
1:33:903 :D Finally Cracked It 8O

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/moriwaki/cbr1000rrmoriwaki/722338/REPLAY.DAT
Congratulations!! You are simply the best!

Uh oh.... we got a new sheriff in town :D .

Don't know about that Decado - Probably more like Deputy Dog IMO :lol: Goes well with the Dukes of Hazard what ya think ;)

Thanks for the Comments lad's Brought a tear to my eye it did :P

shall i put your replay up on youtube?

Yeah that be cool 750 Cheers :D for the benefit of our NTSC Boyz ;)

Sure... whatever you'd like to be called. I'm just a sheriff at a bigger town :D.

Sure... whatever you'd like to be called. I'm just a sheriff at a bigger town :D.

uh-oh...smackdown... http://echodrivers.com/forums/images/smiles/00000694.gif

http://echodrivers.com/forums/images/smiles/00000694.gif

Edit: I love this smiley.

if you like that one...here (http://echodrivers.com/forums/posting.php?mode=smilies) is a list of some pretty good ones.

:lol: Decado You may have a bigger town but i've got a bigger GUN ;)

And what bigger gun might that be?

Yeah that be cool 750 Cheers :D for the benefit of our NTSC Boyz ;)
oki, i'll get that done sometime today :)

Don't know about that Decado - Probably more like Deputy Dog IMO :lol: Goes well with the Dukes of Hazard what ya think ;)

Thanks for the Comments lad's Brought a tear to my eye it did :P



Yeah that be cool 750 Cheers :D for the benefit of our NTSC Boyz ;)

Hi Celtic!

What do you think - is the Moriwaki as competitiv as the 7 Honda or other racebikes? And what is the main advantage of the Moriwaki? I tried both but couldn´t feel a big difference.

The Moriwaki is bassically the "every mans/womens" bike. It has a good bit of everything. In comparison to the other Honda, the Moriwaki handles better.

i personally think the moriwaki is an overall better balanced bike. while no one can deny the locomotive engine in the 7 honda, it seems a little less refined, i guess. the edges are sharper, and you have to be smoother. ultimately, i think the 7 honda could be faster, but its that much harder to go fast on it. the moriwaki allows, in typical honda fashion, 90-95% performance with ease. but that last 5-10% is hard to tap into. just my 2 cents.

fwiw, my personal best time at the ring is with the moriwaki.

Interesting Lad's but IMO the Moriwaki is alot faster than the 7 star Honda, I have tried the 7star a couple of times but only hit mid 34's :? but then i don't think it suits Valencia but time may tell once settings are tweaked :D

Some Updates as I had a 3Hr Session this Morning/Afternoon :D

NEW RM RECORD

HONDA CBR 1000RM
0:45:270
1:09:040
1:34:146 :D

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/honda/cbr1000rrracingmodify/644396/REPLAY.DAT


Moriwaki 8Hr Semi Pro Mode - Just had to try it out :roll:

0:45:206
1:08:819
1:33:784 :D My fastest Lap So Far 8O with a 24:965 last sector

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/moriwaki/cbr1000rrmoriwaki/620278/REPLAY.DAT

As a comparison probably shows just how clean my Pro Mode record lap Was ;)

maybe it's about time we let semi-pro join to and make a saperated ranking for that one

nice time Celtic 1'33.7XX is a very good time in semi-pro, and your pro-mode run is even more inprecive

Thats Fine Mthielen but you may not have much competition at the moment as I only run semi pro as a comparison and the other racers rarely go the semi pro route.

The above time is the current fastest proven time, you say you have done a 33:6xx semi pro and I have no reason to not believe you but to be officially recognised you must back up your times with uploaded replays ;)

If you have done it once you can obviously do it again :D

So go for it and if you beat the above time I will be the first to congratulate you
and throw a couple of reputation points your way ;)

your replay, celtic :)

pro mode - 1:33.903 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqZF7apJKTs)

Really nice lap time Celtic.

Edit: My best is only a measly 1'35.277 with the Moriwaki... I suck at this track but its fun.

Cheers 750 ;)

BTW are you getting any royalties ? :lol: If so 60/40 split ;)



Thanks Decado and i'm sure you could get down to the 33's given time and effort as with a couple of others here.

no problem m8y :) hehe, royalties'd be cool :lol:

back on track, i've a new new pb on the duke rm

t1 - 0:45.119
t2 - 1:08.839

lap - 1:34.334

I believe that's puts you second overall :clap:

My RM Time may not last :cry:

Looking @ your splits 750F that t2 time is faster than I've been on the Duke and I would go as far to say that if you can nail the last sector and get close to a 25 dead my Moriwaki time is looking a bit shakey also :eek:

fell soon after this, but a cool pic i thought :D

Tried the Honda 7 Star and found that compared to the Moriwaki Tiger the 7 Star is faster up the straight but loses any advantage on the brakes as pushes wide and moves around alot, also ever so slightly more Torque out of the corners provided you can stop it spinning up that is.

Anyway after about an hour and a half :-

0:45:123
1:08:860
1:33:909 :P

so the Moriwaki Tiger has it by 6 Thou at present :twisted:

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/honda/cbr1000rrwsuzuka8h2005/80009/REPLAY.DAT

SO FAR : 1000cc Class

1:33:903 Moriwaki Tiger http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/moriwaki/cbr1000rrmoriwaki/722338/REPLAY.DAT
1:33:909 7 Star Honda http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/honda/cbr1000rrwsuzuka8h2005/80009/REPLAY.DAT
1:34:146 CBR1000RM http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/honda/cbr1000rrracingmodify/644396/REPLAY.DAT
1:34:174 Ducati 999RM http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/ducati/999rfilaracingmodify/479189/REPLAY.DAT
1:33:784 Moriwaki Tiger SEMI PRO http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/moriwaki/cbr1000rrmoriwaki/620278/REPLAY.DAT

SO FAR : 600cc Class

1:37:887 CBR600RM
1:37:943 R6 RM
1:37:611 GSXR 600 RM
1:37:454 ZX6 RM

i wish my ps2 still worked :(

[edit - wow, shes reading for a moment. im still stuck with a fastest lap of a 1'35 with the cbr-rrw with 27s on regular rms :( ]