Your opinion (in fact, all of it is).

My opinion is based on very sound reasoning. You will be hard pressed to catch me contradicting myself. You on the other hand, have no idea where you stand on the matter. You trip over your own thought process; you're here one moment and there the next. For this reason, you and I are miles apart from one another on an intellectual level. Your grasp of elementary logic is all parts feeble.

So how about you shape up, and if I dont do it on even terms... what are you going to do? Stop me?

You stop yourself by default when you don't do it on even terms; no involvement on my part is necessary. My position isn't exactly out in left field on this either -- the mere fact the TTWS championships allow only pro runs is an implicit admission on the part of the participants that anything other than pro runs represents an advantage. Simple. If the popular opinion were that there's no advantage either way, the TTWS would be wide open to standard, semi and pro runs all the same. That jive with you?

Regardless, even by your own busted logic, you've been bested by Sonic. The only noteworthy thing is that his run is far more of a respectable accomplishment in and of itself because he sweated it out in the pre-eminently twitchy pro mode while you were left relatively unworried on your pair of super glue slicks.

Uncreated

The rule is: post any times in any mode and any bike, etc but you have to specify the mode. (On behalf of Es Nes/Calla/750)

This does nothing to enhance your argument; as a matter of fact, you are merely restating what I've been telling you all along. Congratulations, you just buried yourself even further.

Why do you think that rule was stated? For cosmetics? It's telling you that if you're going to post a laptime, that the mode needs to be stated so as to separate the advantaged runs (semi-pro) from the less advantaged ones (pro). That's its purpose, Stormryder. Read between the lines. The basic translation is that semi-pro runs are to be grouped with other semi-pro runs -- likewise for pro.

But here's an interesting twist.

The conclusion one may approach from a pro run that's the same or faster (perhaps even somewhat slower) than a semi is that the pro mode player is the better player under the parameters in which he is subject to -- he's more skilled in pro than you are in semi -- he managed to push the limits of his controller mode harder than you did in yours. But in the midst of all this needless analysis, why not eliminate the variable altogether? Bingo -- that's what the rule is for.

Uncreated

fo shizzle, my nizzle. take it out side.

im sure im not the only one that is tired of reading your arguments. please try and keep this on topic. if you have something useful to add to the topic, then by all means, post it up, but the last thing that is needed is more bickering back and forth, it makes both of you look bad.

..the last thing that is needed is more bickering back and forth, it makes both of you look bad.

Thing is Cal, unlike my friend o'er yonder, my self esteem doesn't depend upon foreign hands for its masturbation. I neither need or depend on praise, nor does any negative opinion of me cause me to beg for forgiveness. I am perfectly indifferent.

Uncreated

Just ignore him calla.

Just ignore him calla.

Yet another superb example of your unparalleled dullness -- he wasn't taking sides, Mr. "King of the Ring." LOL!

Uncreated

You drew a fine line with your stupidity and unwillingness to read my different views. You can keep talking all you want and I'm just going to ignore you because I'm looking like a fool trying to convey my opinion; it's useless.

You drew a fine line with your stupidity and unwillingness to read my different views.

I've read all your views, but cast you off as incapable of waging any sort of stable argument bearing even the least degree of logical consistency. You are I.Q. challenged, and you live in a tailor-made world full of odd paradoxes and self-serving points of view.

Uncreated

fo shizzle, my nizzle. take it out side.

im sure im not the only one that is tired of reading your arguments. please try and keep this on topic. if you have something useful to add to the topic, then by all means, post it up, but the last thing that is needed is more bickering back and forth, it makes both of you look bad.
having been a moderator on a GT4 olr forum, i know from experience that this kind of thing can be a pain. i've been
involved in some battles myself too, but at the end of the day it's mostly pointless, you gain nothing

a lot of long off-topic ramblings that are probably best deleted here, they use up valuable forum space. this kind of
ongoing bickering should be done by pm, imo

my 2 bobs worth :D

a: semi-pro times are allowed, but, they arent included amoungst the pro times iirc.

b: yes, you both need to chil. if you both feel the need to further discuse this please do it back chanal (pm)

6'43.781 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/423) on the duke

Pretty freakin' sweet man. That's only .90-ish of a second behind my fastest time but still... thats one smoking Duke and I wouldnt be able to pull that off (I doubt that I can at least). I was curious, what is you suspension setup for the 7-Star Honda? I like the bike, just cant seem to find a suspension setup to keep the bike on the road.

6'42.401 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/419)

PWNED :)

750F-RM maybe you should put this one on youtube:D

Pretty freakin' sweet man. That's only .90-ish of a second behind my fastest time but still... thats one smoking Duke and I wouldnt be able to pull that off (I doubt that I can at least). I was curious, what is you suspension setup for the 7-Star Honda? I like the bike, just cant seem to find a suspension setup to keep the bike on the road.

Thanks dude, my suspension setup is 1,9,1,4 (spring rate, ride height, rebound, bound) for both front and rear. I havent spent a lot of time on the suspension so there's probably a much better setup for it but I basically just tried to make it as forgiving as possible over the bumps.

I took some pics of the duke:

the 5th pic is very nice.

Thanks dude, my suspension setup is 1,9,1,4 (spring rate, ride height, rebound, bound) for both front and rear. I havent spent a lot of time on the suspension so there's probably a much better setup for it but I basically just tried to make it as forgiving as possible over the bumps.
cheers for posting those :) i nomally have a bloody minded 'i'll use my own set up' kind of outlook, but i'll give yours a try for the mighty nurb :D
750F-RM maybe you should put this one on youtube:D
i've got some software problems at the moment, which are stopping me getting a nurb lap captured at below the 100mb limit for youtube

i'm in contact with customer support, so hopefully i can get it sorted in due course. i can still do a single lap capture from anywhere but nurb, but till i get sorted, maybe someone else can get sonic's lap uploaded?

if not, i'll happily do it when/if i get my software fixed :)

6'43.781 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/423) on the duke

Split times?

Uncreated

the 5th pic is very nice.

Thanks, I really like the slow shutter speed effect. The only problem is finding a camera that's moving at the same speed as the bike so it doesnt get blurred as well :)

Split times?

42.914
1'16.363
1'42.970
2'31.475
3'07.745
3'32.445
4'19.421
5'00.689
5'22.608
6'03.612
6'22.125
6'43.781

42.914
1'16.363
1'42.970
2'31.475
3'07.745
3'32.445
4'19.421
5'00.689
5'22.608
6'03.612
6'22.125
6'43.781

Damn, you picked up massively between sixth and eighth checkpoints. Up to that point, I run a second ahead of you, then by the eighth I'm a whopping four to five seconds behind.

In other news, I just picked up a sweet video capturing unit. Quality is awesome (DVD). I'm playing around with Adobe Premiere Pro and should have some videos up soon.

Uncreated

42.914
1'16.363
1'42.970
2'31.475
3'07.745
3'32.445
4'19.421
5'00.689
5'22.608
6'03.612
6'22.125
6'43.781

Damn, you picked up massively between sixth and eighth checkpoints. Up to that point, I run a second ahead of you, then by the eighth I'm a whopping four to five seconds behind. Gotta tell you though, if you iron out your run between start and third checkpoint (my bests are 41.6xx, 1'14.7xx and 1'41.1xx on the CBR1 RM) you'll put out even more of a nutcase time.

In other news, I just picked up a sweet video capturing unit. Quality is awesome (DVD). I'm playing around with Adobe Premiere Pro and should have some videos up soon.

Uncreated

In other news, I just picked up a sweet video capturing unit. Quality is awesome (DVD)
I'm playing around with Adobe Premiere Pro and should have some videos up soon.

Uncreated

cool 8O it'll be good to see some fast ntsc videos :)

cool 8O it'll be good to see some fast ntsc videos :)

I think I'll put up my Citta run (1'31.596) first, as it's one of my shortest. It'll be good practice for more videos to come.

Uncreated

Gotta tell you though, if you iron out your run between start and third checkpoint (my bests are 41.6xx, 1'14.7xx and 1'41.1xx on the CBR1 RM) you'll put out even more of a nutcase time.

Yes I really struggle on those first 2 sectors. I'm sure it's the way I'm handling the jumps on the high speed sections that is making the difference. It seems that if you are not absolutely pushing it the hardest over the crest and pulling up just in time for the next jump that you can easily lose a whole second or two in an instant :(

Damn, you picked up massively between sixth and eighth checkpoints. Up to that point, I run a second ahead of you, then by the eighth I'm a whopping four to five seconds behind.

That's what's great tabout the Nurburgring, being slow in one or two sectors doesn't put you out of the race, there's always the possibility of catching up as your overall performance averages out. In fact, it's when I'm behind that I tend to push harder and race better :)

I think I'll put up my Citta run (1'31.596) first, as it's one of my shortest.

This doesn't deserve its own thread, so I'll drop it here.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XTLK8Z8F

20 megabyte file. Might play somewhat dark on most media players. The playback is a perfectly synced picture-in-picture. Main window is cockpit, smaller is television. Cockpit view plays somewhat slower than on my console, but it's still worth viewing.

Soundtrack is a very ambient "Blueprints" by Jeff Mills. Detroit techno.

Uncreated

750F-RM maybe you should put this one on youtube:D
here you go, sonic's 6:42.401 at nurb (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSW6Pnp51V4) :D

Well done there Uncreated, and especially you Sonic. Great lap.

here you go, sonic's 6:42.401 at nurb (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSW6Pnp51V4) :D

great:clap:

Thanks for putting up the vid 750F-RM, my friend "evergrim" was able to watch it :)

And a nice lap of citta Mr Uncreated, although.... heheheheh :twisted:

And a nice lap of citta Mr Uncreated, although.... heheheheh :twisted:

Although you've beaten it? :)

Uncreated

Although you've beaten it? :)

Does it count if it's on the Duke? Cause I couldn't beat it on the CBR1000RRRM (that bike is too restrained imo)

Does it count if it's on the Duke?

I don't see why not. It's regrettable that all bikes aren't created equal (YZF-R6 eats up the 600 class for instance), but since the Duke is of the 1000cc variety, it's more or less fair game.

I used to use the Duke, but to me it's disorienting. I scream the CBR1 well into redline and I get good tactile feeling and drive out of it as a result. Though bloody powerful, the Duke's deep-droning engine seems to belie it's ability to move like stink. Maybe one of these days I'll experiment with it again.

Uncreated

for some reason, i cant get the duke to work for me either. its like its on par with the aprillia and mv agusta.

ive been testing the z1000 here lately, on and off. and so far ive managed a 7:00 flat (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/439). not bad considering i hate the non racing version.

i'm a big fan of the Duke 8O the lazy lumpiness of the engine does, as tu said, belie it's speed

it's the chassis where it really scores for me though, very manouverable and narrow feeling

i can get better laps anywhere on it than any of the japanese 1000 rm's

i like the 999r rms engine, but, it feels heavy to me on turn in.

i like the 999r rms engine, but, it feels heavy to me on turn in.

Exactly.

Uncreated

that would be true in "RL" too. a lot of the twins exhibit the same feeling. they are heavy steering. in my experience, this is great for mid-corner speed. very assuring, but it takes some getting used to, especially when youre used to a very flickable R6...:)

I was using lean-out form on Nordschleife which makes the handling very light, so I didn't have any issues with heaviness.

I really just prefer it for the extra torque (an extra 2kgf/m iirc)

As for the deep engine noise, it does make it seem slower, but in reality it accelerates faster. Revving into the red is something I try to avoid anyway as the power drops off there. Low revs don't bother me as long as the bike is putting out enough torque. Short shifting is a good tactic imo. If you look at the speedometer you should see that the acceleration is still massive despite the lower revs.

Just my opinion though.

Check out my smokin' Motard lap :)

6'42.394 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/445)

:lol: :lol:

Check out my smokin' Motard lap :)

Heh, now you're just making a mockery out of the rest of us.

Uncreated

Ok so I changed back to lean out style and scored a 6'41.662 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/446) :neutral:

Check out my smokin' Motard lap :)

6'42.394 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/445)

:lol: :lol:


Console regions be damned to the darkest depths of Hades!
I'd pay 2 bucks to see that. It'd be better spent than the 6 bucks I paid to see Epic Movie. :shifty:

6'35.012 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/456) on the duke 8O

Not unbeatable either, there's still another second or two in it :)

And I'm done with the 7 Honda on this track too as it is slow (couldn't get it past 6'36) and handles extremely poorly compared to the duke.

maybe you should test him at valecia too

Yes, but first I need to take a rest from TT :lol:

All this hot lapping has frazzled my brain a bit :eek: :shifty: :neutral:

And I'm done with the 7 Honda on this track too as it is slow (couldn't get it past 6'36) and handles extremely poorly compared to the duke
indeed yes, i found that when i tried the 7 the other night :cry:

indeed yes, i found that when i tried the 7 the other night :cry:

Yeah, you have to be too careful on the 7 which really screws with your time in the sectors that contain jumps.

It really is a great bike for smooth tracks though like Suzuka (obviously) , Valencia, Grand Valley etc.

But at nurb you can launch the Duke over jumps and it lands gracefully. And you don't even need to set the suspension very soft either. I could probably get away with setting it a bit firmer.

I did get the feeling I was losing a bit of time on the high speed sections though.

Anyway I should give some credit to Diatribe for using his technique as it's the only thing that has got me into the 30's (he was right about that too :) )

Just to put things in perspective, if you do a good lap of nurburgring with neat lines and good brake timing, using trail braking, you should end up with a 6'38 or 6'39.

That's what I was getting during the first 4hrs while i was still optimising all the braking spots for trail braking.

The 6'35 is a very optimised lap, so it wasn't a piece of cake or anything (it might seem that way, I thought)

A super quick run should yield a 6'33 but I'm not in any hurry to achieve that :)

6'35.012 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/456) on the duke 8O

Not unbeatable either, there's still another second or two in it :)

And I'm done with the 7 Honda on this track too as it is slow (couldn't get it past 6'36) and handles extremely poorly compared to the duke.

Man... this makes me want to just stop playing lol. I still cant figure out what this "trail-braking" thing is. What is it and what do I have to do?

I still cant figure out what this "trail-braking" thing is. What is it and what do I have to do?

Check out the Valencia Lap Records (http://www.motogpboards.com/showthread.php?t=767) thread as we were discussing it quite a bit there.

It basically allows you to rocket through corners with more speed and traction than you normally get. At Nurburgring the difference is about 0.5 seconds per sector :twisted:

basically instead of rolling off the throttle when you get on the brakes, you keep the throttle wide open and then use the rear brake to controll your corner speed. youll stop quicker and have semi-pro levels of grip rear grip.

ello all :) here's a laptime from me on one of my favourire street bikes in the game, the BMW K1200R - 7:24.382

i improved my pb a little too, to 6:55.340 on the Duke 8O here's the link to youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l2z4smxmOU) for it. it looks a tad odd because i captured it in
widescreen (ps2 set to 16:9 too) but youtube didn't take it as such, unless there's an option to view 16:9 that i've missed :)

hehe nice time but you'll have to take another 20 seconds off that :twisted: :P

But how do you get your pics in 720p becuase I have the game set to 16:9 but it still does them at 1280x960?

sonic - when in photomode press all four shoulder buttons to switch between normal and widescreen. dont try it with vertical shots though since they come out squished.

hehe nice time but you'll have to take another 20 seconds off that :twisted: :P

But how do you get your pics in 720p becuase I have the game set to 16:9 but it still does them at 1280x960?
as nes says for the 16:9 photo's, yep :)

hehe, can't see me getting 6:30 anything round nurb

i'd be dead chuffed to get a 6:49.9xx though :D

8:18.666 on the '61 Honda RC162 RM :lol:
It's more fun than you would think.

Has to be more fun than running a Model T.

that rc 162 may not be all that fast, but just the balance of the bike, plus making the motor scream really puts the "fun factor" up there.

ello all :) i gave the GSX1400RM a try, and got 7:14:369

it's a very good ride, the big Suzuki 8O

Have spent a fair bit of time on the game the last couple of days, and finally cracked the 7 minute mark :D

999RM: 6:59.674
TZ250: 7:06.120

The TZ is perfect for learning this circuit.

Are you using trail braking?

i doubt he is, the tz250 is a sub 7 minute bike with "normal" means of riding. i managed a 7'03 after butchering the all of sector 2.:wall:

That was with trail braking to be honest, but I'm not trying to be competitive and am just having fun running around and taking bends at 180mph. I still don't know the circuit too well either to be honest, and I don't have the will or time to put in endless hours trying to learn every subtlety here in order to challenge you top guys.

hello I saw your replay on valence and on the nurburgring sonic I have impressed of tone turn, this circuit I have do not know it at all, cheer. I am enjoy to have to also find an excellent player like you I used it trail braking , since I play has TT my record on valence and of 1.31.431 as a semi-pro I tests the mode pro I made 1.32.363 rather quickly in arcade on the other hand I have am into 1.31.003 with Honda CBR RRW 1000 @ + for good challenge

hello I saw your replay on valence and on the nurburgring sonic I have impressed of tone turn, this circuit I have do not know it at all, cheer. I am enjoy to have to also find an excellent player like you I used it trail braking , since I play has TT my record on valence and of 1.31.431 as a semi-pro I tests the mode pro I made 1.32.363 rather quickly in arcade on the other hand I have am into 1.31.003 with Honda CBR RRW 1000 @ + for good challenge

Wow, 1'31.003 , do you have the replay?

off course this replay I have guard but I but I puts the bonds direct to see video it's as an arcade mode and a semi pro :cry:

http://www.dailymotion.com/ludgt84/video/x10bpb_ludtt84-valence-record-131003

bye :)

Es what about the checkpoints for Tz I asked you about?
Keeping a war secret? :lol:

http://www.dailymotion.com/ludgt84/video/x10bpb_ludtt84-valence-record-131003


You sure this is in pro mode? You held down that throttle almost the entire run and I couldn't make out what your brake meters were doing.

Uncreated

I'm pretty sure he said it was semi-pro + arcade.

lol @ your reflection on the tv :lol:

:roll: not it is on I as a pro mode since a little less one month this race has made in arcade as a semi pro points of control 43.6 T1 and 1.06.5 T2 there is no secrecy just much drive on valence I have make a contest above (but the trailbraiking assistance much :lol:

yes exact me am seen the tv lol

my tz250 split times:

t1 44.586
t2 1'19.585
t3 1'47.418
t4 2'38.074
t5 3'15.523
t6 3'41.479
t7 4'29.922
t8 5'12.401
t9 5'35.047
t10 6'18.359
t11 6'40.667
final 7'03.398

180mph top speed.

Tnx man. :) If you catch some more time maybe you could upload the replay if it's ntsc.

yeah, its ntsc ... itll be up in a moment. ill work on my time later, first i want to update the master hot lap thread since ill be off today.

with 33 pages this thread will be last ;)

replay (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/465)

:)

[edit - argh! i gain all that time for my mistake from the start only to fall behind by half way :? ]

es, that's a solid time you've got there. I haven't been able to beat it yet. Trailbraking is difficult on the TZ250 because when you hit throttle+brakes the engine dies and the rear locks :)

It's so fast through the corners anyway, I don't think trailbraking would help it much.

haha...one for the home team...;)

:lol:

after many laps of frustration, ive my cbr600rr rm time down to my other 600rm times

7'03.946

i know theres a sub 7 in all of the 600s, but, im not sure how long itll take me to get there.

goals:

sub 7 8hour - check (7 cbr-rrw and yoshi gsxr 8hour)
sub 7 litre rm - check (999r rm, cbr-rr rm, yzf-r1 rm)
sub 7 tz250 - "close"
sub 7 600rm - "close"

close = 3-4 seconds away.

id like to get the road bikes down to a ~7.10 as well.

Got the Honda RC162 RM down to 8'04.392 :lol:

hey people! I'm back from a rather large riding holiday tearing up the countryside on my steed :D

god its good to be back.

anyhoo, I recently managed to get my pb down from 6.58'015 to a rather chuffed 6.46'212 on the duke (pro mode using this fandangled trail braking), and I managed a 6.59'311 on the Z1000RM also in pro but without trail braking, which put a smile on my face.

would love some help on suspension though... im finding the first jump, and the right just before it, at sector 1 marker a pain... and im also having problems with the high speed area I think its around sector 5? anyway... its the bumpy as hell right after the first 3 (or was it 4?) high speed lefts... I just can't keep the wheels touching in these area's and it gets hard to control the bike...

also I think the fact im using the rather far from finely controllable D-pad might be a reason for some of this?

some pics of me duk'n round the ring :D

The right just before sector one. Hug the wall on the far right. Briefly let off the throttle just before you dip into the turn.

The bumpy area heading to sector five. Fly along at 3/4 throttle, gradually increasing as you traverse the bumps. Proper suspension setup (read, soft) is critical. Try 2F/3B for rebound and 1F/2B for bound.

Uncreated

With the duke, I only softened and heightened the springs a little bit, maybe a couple notches for each.

For the jumps I crouch and hold throttle+rear until the bike is stable after landing, but Uncreated's method of 3/4 throttle works well too :up:

And I notice you're using lean in form, I would have to recommend lean out as it improved my times quite a bit. You should notice an immediate improvement through the first sector.

As for the d-pad, I wouldn't have a hope in hell using that thing :lol:

6'46 though...that's nasty quick, less than 1 second per sector behind me. I'll be keeping a look out for your times thats for sure.

With the duke, I only softened and heightened the springs a little bit, maybe a couple notches for each.

For the jumps I crouch and hold throttle+rear until the bike is stable after landing, but Uncreated's method of 3/4 throttle works well too :up:

And I notice you're using lean in form, I would have to recommend lean out as it improved my times quite a bit. You should notice an immediate improvement through the first sector.

As for the d-pad, I wouldn't have a hope in hell using that thing :lol:

6'46 though...that's nasty quick, less than 1 second per sector behind me. I'll be keeping a look out for your times thats for sure.

I tried lean out earlier today... and was juuuuust under 5 seconds faster through the last sector... but managed to cut to close on the left at the end of the straight and bail... DOH!! oh well... I can atleast get there :D

ok... im now down to a reasonably tidy 6'42.085 (i'll actually upload this one, so if any PAL guys wanna laugh it a noob...)... firstly THANK YOU! TU... still having issues with that first jump (its meeeeee :( ).... but maaaan it goes through the highspeed T5 section like butter. I reckon with a few more days I can hit the high 30's (I'm probably dreaming though) buuuuut... for now I GIVE UP!!! I'm going nuts... this track is going to cause me a mental break down... and I have an extremely raw... red thumb with a d-pad buttom impression mark on it... can't say I didn't earn it... hahaha

(last pic was added cause... well... no reason)

added up the replay (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/478)

hey 6'42 is time to be proud of, i never got furter the a 7'11 :S

Unrelated question, but how does one unlock plates 2-5?

Uncreated

Unrelated question, but how does one unlock plates 2-5?

Uncreated

you mean 2-4 (5 is choosable in the number menu thing in the garage)

It's quite simple really... for the special numbers (the bordered ones) just come 1st for No1, 2nd for No2, 3rd for No3 and 4th for No4, in the TT World Series championship simple :up:

I would say for normal 1-4, it will be exactle the same, but in the bike specific championships, ie, Superbike 1000 championship for all the 1000RM's, Supersport 600 championship for all the 600RM's and so forth

i'll actually upload this one, so if any PAL guys wanna laugh it a noob

Not at all, I just watched your replay and it's on the money. You're not far off a 6'3x.xxx.

Funny thing though, I just put in a lap that was on pace for a 6'29 and stacked it at Pflanzgarten II :( (reference pic here (http://nurburgring.org.uk/satellite_pic_named.jpg))

Needless to say I was devastated :cry:

still having issues with that first jump (its meeeeee :( )....

You can make that jump with relatively high success at anything 130MPH or lower. Any higher and your chances of landing cleanly and carrying good speed into the right that follows decreases significantly.

Also, air turbulence caused by your untucked rider does seem to upset the bikes geometry-mid jump, so either remain tucked or tuck as soon as possible when you're airborne.

Uncreated

7'02.085 with the ZX-6R RM.

i tryed TU's dampners settings and seems better. the front end still wobbles a bit here and there though.

7'02.085 with the ZX-6R RM.

i tryed TU's dampners settings and seems better. the front end still wobbles a bit here and there though.

hooooow... I can't seem to manage a 7'05 on any of the 600's...

In other news... im down to a 6'40.047 on the duke... BLOODY D*** IT...

corner speed :)

ive not done the math, but, the 1L rms and the 600RMs have similiar power to weight. but, where the litre bikes need a downshift and a roll off throttle moment, the 600s will do flat out.

where the litre bikes really gain is going down the back straight where the zx-6r rm barelly hit 206, the litre bikes are hitting 225+.

corner speed :)

ive not done the math, but, the 1L rms and the 600RMs have similiar power to weight. but, where the litre bikes need a downshift and a roll off throttle moment, the 600s will do flat out.

where the litre bikes really gain is going down the back straight where the zx-6r rm barelly hit 206, the litre bikes are hitting 225+.

I never really found that corner speed made much difference in TT... I know for sure it's true in real life that smaller bikes (lets use the TZR250 as an example) will generally diddle a bigger bike in the corners (we shall use a ZX 10R RM as an example) but I find in the game... no matter how much I push the weeee little stinker the TZR is no faster, or slower than the 10R RM in the corners... and thats pritty much the same all the way round... if I can take a corner at say 160... aslong as the bike isn't a tanker ship (anything busa or longer in the wheelbase stakes)... all the bikes do it at 160... might be me? or the way I digi-ride

yeah, but, if you conisder the fact that the tz250 can keep with the 600s (at my pace and is probably faster than the honda). tbh, i think you could have used better examples too. the tzr250 is a slightly modifed 10 year old road bike being compaired to a brand new, near superbike spec 1l rm.

but, ive also noticed that TT/GT series tends to like the stop'n'go style of driving/riding more so than smooth/brake sooner but carry more corner speed approch of riding/driving.

so, yeah, i just contridicted myself there ;)

yeah, but, if you conisder the fact that the tz250 can keep with the 600s (at my pace and is probably faster than the honda). tbh, i think you could have used better examples too. the tzr250 is a slightly modifed 10 year old road bike being compaired to a brand new, near superbike spec 1l rm.

but, ive also noticed that TT/GT series tends to like the stop'n'go style of driving/riding more so than smooth/brake sooner but carry more corner speed approch of riding/driving.

so, yeah, i just contridicted myself there ;)

I mean't the GP TZR 250 '03... and yes that is true, you can keep pace with the 600's on the smaller bikes... but I find alot of the tracks are very very friendly to smaller bikes, by lack of straights... A really good example would be Deep Forest, or Maybe Autumn Ring, not a huge deal of straights, almost all corners... And even the incredibly respectable times put up on this board do generally favour the bigger cc's for the faster times on all the tracks... admittedly by nominal amounts sometimes

a very easy 6'53.753 with the 7 CBR-RRW. its not clean though. coming through the very bump/very fast series of corner before the first karasol i run off road onto the right side of the grass and then get both wheels off road at the bend at long back straight.

i was a head of myself at the 140mph bend right before t2 only to lose the rear under braking :doh:

a very easy 6'53.753 with the 7 CBR-RRW. its not clean though. coming through the very bump/very fast series of corner before the first karasol i run off road onto the right side of the grass and then get both wheels off road at the bend at long back straight.

i was a head of myself at the 140mph bend right before t2 only to lose the rear under braking :doh:

the section between T5 and T6 you mean? hehehehe... im quite good at that section... faster than I've seen even any of sonics replays (but damn you for still beating me!)... the very last left after T5 should be at around 280-85km'h and once you pass the very first minor right kink untuck (theres a BIG bump here) and use your front brake only, without letting off the gas to bring your speed down to around 260-65km'h... you should absolutely cruise through without hassle

edit: 280-85 = 174-77 mp'h and 260-65 = 162-65mp'h (forgot alot of you guys use mp'h)

well, ive been as low as 42.x t1 but then toss it shortly afterwards. this last time the rear hit a bump and went sideways and highsided. weeee.

and, i cant use throttle and front brake at the same time with throttle and front brake being r3 :)

well, ive been as low as 42.x t1 but then toss it shortly afterwards. this last time the rear hit a bump and went sideways and highsided. weeee.

and, i cant use throttle and front brake at the same time with throttle and front brake being r3 :)

then use the other front brake and practise being very limber :silenced:

what other front brake? :confused:

I thought you meant R3 as in right analogue stick... like up is go, down is stop... you should have another front brake... X if you haven't played with the button layout...

i do use the right thumbstick for throttle/brake ... but, im not going to trailbrake (at least with the throttle jammed widoe open ;) )

well, managed a 7'18.711 with the GSXR1000 on preformance tyres/sports exhaust. i wish i had all the power in first and second gears though.

6'33.732 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/484) on the duke.

6'33.732 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/484) on the duke.

Mind telling us your split times?

Uncreated

im more interested in seeing more varety in bikes used more than just out right laptimes.

im more interested in seeing more varety in bikes used more than just out right laptimes.

I've been testing a few other bikes and here's what I got (to the best of my memory)

Yamaha R1 RM - 6'41.xxx
Aprilia RSV 1000R RM - 6'44.xxx
TZ250 - 7'02.xxx

Those are without trailbraking :)

I'm trying to get the duke into 6'39 without trailbraking but it's damn hard.

Mind telling us your split times?

0'41.047
1'13.156
1'39.289
2'26.833
3'01.971
3'26.133
4'11.232
4'50.817
5'12.344
5'53.317
6'11.671
6'33.732 :up:

now that aprilia time interests me. im a good 5 seconds slower on the aprilia than i am on the other litre bikes (minus the mv which is another 3 seconds behind that)

Gsx-r750 - 7'16.443

R1 RM - 6'34.3xx
999R RM - 6'33.4xx

minor improvement with the 999R RM - 6'58.666 ... :lol:

The zx-10r rm needs better side grip. its like the fairings too fat or the foot pegs too long or something because the front end its just ... hm. it feels like its on the verge of low siding in every corner.

thats the lean angle...you sit real high on that bike. i know what you mean though. its seems like there is a good bike in there, but its hiding somewhere in a black hole...

a lap on the Buell RM, a very fine motorcycle imo 8O 7:02.850http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMzHPuD36HQ

hm ... interesting. i guess my problem comes from too long gears :? i think im set to top out about 205.

i like your lines 750. very smooth! and a good time for that bike too.

i think the buell is one of the better bikes in the game, not really the fastest, but a lot of fun.

Looking fine there, 750 ;)

thank you gentlemen :) yeah the buell's a beauty, so easy to ride it seems to me

i'd like to think there's a <7 minute lap for me on it. lots of fun trying anyways :D

i'd like to think there's a <7 minute lap for me on it. lots of fun trying anyways :D

Have you tried lean out form? I'm finding lean out is giving me better lap times on a lot of tracks.

The standard lean out form is not that great but if you tweak it a fair bit you can get corner speed similar to that of lean in with all the flickability of lean out.

Have you tried lean out form? I'm finding lean out is giving me better lap times on a lot of tracks.

The standard lean out form is not that great but if you tweak it a fair bit you can get corner speed similar to that of lean in with all the flickability of lean out.

sell it boy!! :lol:

sell it boy!! :lol:

lol what do you mean? Do you agree that lean out is faster or were you just being sarcastic?

I should post my lean out form on here cos I think it looks cool and is fast :)

I should post my lean out form on here cos I think it looks cool and is fast :)

the default lean out looks silly.

the default lean out looks silly.

I know! :lol: That's why I say tweak it so it looks cool and gives you better cornering :)

Just crouch down lower, lean forward more, stick the leg out a bit more, decrease the arm angle, and dont roll or yaw your torso too much otherwise it looks goofy. I'll put my form up as soon as I can be bothered.

7:19 nordschliefe
bmw 1200rm Excellent ride.

lol what do you mean? Do you agree that lean out is faster or were you just being sarcastic?

I should post my lean out form on here cos I think it looks cool and is fast :)

hahaha... sarcasm, I totally agree! you sold me on it a wee bit back... and besides, it looks so much more bling :lol:

My lean out style if anyone is interested :up:

Head Roll: 100
Head Pitch: 0.3
Torso Roll: 20
Torso Yaw: -25
Body Lean Full Bank: 25
Arm Angle: 45
Seat Position: 0.0
Lateral Slide: 25
Vertical Slide: 0
Leg Angle: 45
Body Lean Upright: 25

My lean out style if anyone is interested :up:

Nice looking form, though to me it still feels a little sluggish to get the bike from one side to the other. I think this is due to your lateral slide being quite high. It does look very stylish though hanging your arse off the bike like that :lol:

Here's my neutral form. It's a bit conservative looking and doesn't have a very high corner speed (due to almost no lateral slide) but it doesn't seem to matter as my lap times have been better on it. The bike is really flickable which is where you can save heaps of time imo.

Head Roll: 100
Head Pitch: -8.0
Torso Roll: 0
Torso Yaw: 0
Body Lean Full Bank: 25
Arm Angle: 30
Seat Position: 0.0
Lateral Slide: 8
Vertical Slide: 5
Leg Angle: 60
Body Lean Upright: 25

Nice looking form, though to me it still feels a little sluggish to get the bike from one side to the other. I think this is due to your lateral slide being quite high. It does look very stylish though hanging your arse off the bike like that :lol:


im aaaaaaall about the posing :lol:

Gotta look good first, lap times second... doesn't slow me down much, although I could be alot quicker, just gotta stop playing GT and start practising again

Here's my neutral form. It's a bit conservative looking and doesn't have a very high corner speed..


That form is almost identical in appearance to my own highly-flickable form.

That form is almost identical in appearance to my own highly-flickable form.

Cool :)

So where are your lap times at now? I still can't get any of the bikes into the 6'39 without using the throttle+brakes. Best was a 6'41 on the R1RM iirc.

I think the R1RM might be as good as the 999RRM, if not better. Also the R1 8H bike is quite decent, better than the 7 Honda imo.

So where are your lap times at now?

No great improvement. I haven't had time to play lately, plus I need some downtime from the game. Rest assured though that I haven't quit or disappeared. I'm still here, lurking.

No great improvement. I haven't had time to play lately, plus I need some downtime from the game. Rest assured though that I haven't quit or disappeared. I'm still here, lurking.

No worries, it's probably best not to play unless you are relaxed and have plenty of free time.

I'm on a bit of a break from uni myself, so I've had a lot of time to play the game. Going back soon though, and I'll have to forget about TT if I want to avoid failing subjects :lol:

*whimper*

7'03.736 with a crash and another questionable moment.

i managed to take the back straight bend at 190mph+ the entering the final series of corners, the front goes light over a bump, hit a curb and thats that.

previous lap was a 7'09.7xx and i was 9.5 seconds that lap and ended up +6 :(

might not have been my 6'59 id liked it to been but, still.

yzf-r6 - 7'01.278

nice time man, is that the race bike, or the street?

Y'all still plugging away at it, eh? Good.

calla - race.

i compared the r6 and gsxr split times and i was 2 seconds faster than the r6 time at the last sector. the chassis on the gsxr is much nicer than the r6, but, the r6 has a smoother, slightly larger poor band.

R6 splits:
t1 44.870
t2 1'19.165
t3 1'47.303
t4 2'37.487
t5 3'14.798
t6 3'40.679
t7 4'30.134
t8 5'13.431
t9 5'36.294
t10 6'19.499
t11 6'39.449
s/f 7'01.278

GSXR splits:
t1 44.279
t2 1'18.249
t3 1'46.128
t4 2'36.543
t5 3'14.558
t6 3'40.372
t7 4'29.101
t8 5'11.772
t9 5'34.674
t10 6'17.530
t11 6'37.829
*crash* both wheels off ground, before i thought it was just the front that lifted and caused the crash
s/f 7'03.736

I like the GSX-R time es :up:

has anyone got a clean sub 7 minute laptime on a 600rm yet?

i just jumped on a cbr600rr rm after not playing TT for ... a while. and, for compairson sake, my fast cbr6rr rm time was a 7'03.946 and i just did a 7'10.404 (laptime not found? Oo ) after two laps.

i forgot how much random crap happens here at random times.

[edit: wtf? 1.6 seconds up on my r6 7.01.7 time and suddenly the bike goes spinning through the air going through the last sector. pissed.

t1: 43.957
t2: 1.17.729
t3: 1.45.875
t4: 2.36.104
t5: 3.14.303
t6: 3.40.140
t7: 4.29.131
t8: 5.11.646
t9: 5.34.863
t10: 6.17.995
t11: 6.38.146
somewhere between t11 and s/f, bike cart wheels.]