last night i did my first 99.9% clean run of the ring. i say 99.9% because on t3 iirc, i cut it a little too tightly and used a wheel width of grass at the apex.

7.31.463 on the yzf-r1 rm :)

replay.dat (click me!) (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/yamaha/yzfr1racingmodify/453209/REPLAY.DAT)

I think nipping the hedge a couple of times during a run isn't so bad, honestly. Pros do it, too. It adds character to a lap, in my opinion.

My best is on the Ducati 999R (RM): 7'28'4xx. It handles that course SO well with a little suspension setup. Especially in the twisty section before the monster straight. But with the Duck, you have to make up oodles of time in the twisties because she tops out at nothing better than 190 on the straight (default gearing). The CBR1000RR (RM) will do 223 down that straight with no modification.

-J

skizit - im using the 999r rm in the championship here and im topping 205 before turn 1 and if i get the line right 212mph in turn 1 :)

It sounds like you have the tranny gears altered form stock. I played last night and was using the stock gearing on the RM 999R (Fila bike). It would not break 187 on the long straight.

indeed :)

i just ran a 7'21 with the se7en star honda. meh, i think im going to limit myself to 60hp+/- still good enough for close to 150mph, but i still feel somewhat in controll instead of getting thrown around by the bumps on faster machines.

i did a 7.55.x with a vfr400r road with preformance tyres and sports exhaust.

well, i guess i forgot about the 60hp limit ;)

the ysp & presto feels pretty good there. just bumped the rebound down a notch and shes was absorbing most bumps. now i just have to figure out the big bumps and speeds exceeding 200mphs. :lol:

with the 999R RM, ive to stay tucked and get hard on both of the brakes and scrub speed in order to be stable enough to make the turn at the end of the straight. even then, the bikes really wobbly entering the final series of corners

ysp & presto - 7.17.257
yzf-r1 rm - 7.18.235
999r rm - 7.18.844
cbr1000rrw - 7.21.351
vfr400r (performance tyres and sports exhaust) - 7.55.196

i managed a 7.14.1 with a 999r rm with a crash and a minpr off track incedent and was nearly 4 seconds faster when i low sided. grabed an r6 rm and managed a very clean 7.13.912. if you watch the replay, youll see i was holding back too to make sure i stayed off the grass for the gtp nordschliefe leardboard.

r6 rm replay:

click me! :) (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/yamaha/yzfr6racingmodify/648632/REPLAY.DAT)

You guys got some good times. I did mine at a time of 6'52.172 with a 1000RR RM, enjoy it.

Here's the video (I posted this replay up before I read the rules... sorry about this, didnt mean to violate the rules, I just picked a replay. I'm not sure if I did this replay in Pro mode) :
http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/83

dude, thats a hell of a ride, nice job. i noticed that you use the analog to steer, do you also use the analog for the throttle and brake too?

I actually use L1/L2 and R1 (L1/L2 = front/rear brakes) (R1 = throttle). I'm able to control the throttle and brakes very easily on Pro mode. Btw, is that video in Pro mode to you guys? I labeled it Semi-Pro, wasnt my intention but I thought the video was in pro mode.

it looks like semi-pro to me, but i cant be sure. either way, nice ride.

You guys got some good times. I did mine at a time of 6'52.172 with a 1000RR RM, enjoy it.

Here's the video (I posted this replay up before I read the rules... sorry about this, didnt mean to violate the rules, I just picked a replay. I'm not sure if I did this replay in Pro mode) :
http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/83
Niiice. I look forward to watching that. Oh and no worries about the pro mode thing - that only applies to the championship races. Anything else is a free for all. :)

Alright, so I compared two replays. The one that I uploaded recently of 6'52.172 is definately Semi-Pro mode.

Now... I did a clean lap time (it was some what slow) in Pro mode. It's my first attempt at Pro-mode, so it was hard. I made a time of 6'58.294. I took my time as Pro mode is more demanding for control.

I'll post the video up shortly.

Edit: http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/88

thanks to a callaghans set up tips and -SR-s tip, im down to a mostly clean 7.05 on the cbr1000rr rm. i say mostly because after the start/finish line, theres a left that leads to a right that tightens up. between the first right apex and the second apex, the bike slide wide and nearly low sided on the grass. the next lap i was up by 1.2 seconds then low sided ... doh!

i've found that with a preload thats too high in the front, the bike has a tendancy to run wide, (the ducati 999r rm). dropping it down some helped it, but became a little too unstable for consistent lap times. glad i could help

with the 999r rm, i was finding it was better to raise the rear 1 notch rather than lowering the front because it was refusing to turn in or hold a line. i thought i was dragging the body work on the ground lifting the front slighlty. maybe it was just the spring rate/damping set up.

i nearly did a 7.05 with the 999r rm with preload set at 6/7.

i had my preload set at 8/8 at first, then i dropped it down to 6/8. i ride the rear pretty hard, so i almost always have the rear spring and and preload up high. the down side is that the bike isnt verystable into the corner. i can usually ride around that, but like in my previous post, it kinda makes the bike a little too unstable to run consistent times.

*Sigh of relief* I am glad that helped, and I was glad that you decided to ask me for help. Everyone else at this other forum havent even bothered yet with asking me for any help, yet they all havent even broken into the 7'15 range :?

My time still stands at 6'52 though.

Note: Ask me about anything on that track, dont hesitate.

umm, not to toss your cookies or anything, but ive managed a bunch of sub 7 minutes times, on a bunch of different bikes. this track is beggining to really piss me off...you can only go about like 9/10ths, anything above that is pure luck.

This track is beggining to really piss me off...you can only go about like 9/10ths, anything above that is pure luck.

Where you having trouble at? And I dont really get lucky, yet I can go the whole 10 yards.

what i meant by tht statement is that when you start really pushing, getting just that little extra bit out of the bike, it starts doing wierd things. im sorry,but ive never been travelling down any straight, road or track, and had to back off because the road is soooo bumpy that the front wheel suddenly shoots for the sky. and also after the few times you get air on this track, the backe end shimmies and there is nothing you can do to help the situation. you try to wheelie over the bumps, and all it does is kick the back end in the air and you wind up crashing because the bike turns sideways and highsides when both wheels touch the ground again. this track need to be smoothed out a lot. i realize its not the smoothest track in the world, but when you turn the bike while going about 90 mph, you hit a bump mid-corner, and the bike stands up for no reason...what can you do???

I actually dont have problem with that at all. The track of course isnt smooth, but it's also not level. The track seems to have a bow shape to it in certain area. What part of the track are you talking about when you get airborne? I get airborne at two places: One going 120 mph, and landing it smoothly, and second place landing the bike 185-190 mph smoothly.

callaghan - i had those same "stand up in the middle of the corner" issues at highspeed ring, trial mountain, deep forest, etc ... just pds way of helping us not crash when the forks bottum out :|

New time: 6'50.553. And it's flawless!!

I'll post the replay up soon.

now try to match that in pro mode :)

the best ive managed is a 6.56.x. and it wasnt even clean. hit the grass in a couple places, like two or three. how your managing a 6.50 is beyond me.

7.04.789 with the yzf-r1 rm ... shouldnt be too much longer before i break the 7 minute barrier.

i got lucky when i broke 7 minutes, still havent done it cleanly. grass in a couple places, and madly sideways was a common thing. i guess if you hit every corner just right, and get on the line, you could get into the 6.5x range.

for me its just been a confedence thing. specially at jumps and the back straight. between f1c (pc), pgr2 (xbox), gt4/tt(ps2), and forza(xbox) ive lost count of how many laps if done at nordschliefe. for what little it matters, im 7 seconds away from a 4 minute lap in gt4 in a fgt :)

how your managing a 6.50 is beyond me.

Well here is the replay guys:

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/95

New time:

6'48.694 on the 1000RR Moriwaki Motul bike, which is by far the best bike in the game in my opinion.

Video will be up shortly. I cant believe I did this... :shifty:

Update:

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/98

Enjoy.

no offence dude...but you sound really cocky, almost full of yourself.

and why dont you try it in pro mode?

Why do you think I'm cocky? Is being a happy person (in this case, me) make me cocky? When I said "I have really outdone myself," I meant that I was shocked at the time I did, and I was quite happy with it. I never did say to anyone that I was better than them, I never said anything like that. For you to come out and say Im cocky is pure crap.

Who says I havent tried it in Pro mode? I've done both Pro and Semi. There isnt anything wrong with Semi-Pro mode. Sometimes it's hard to use it, as the traction control can sometime restrict your movement, or throw the bike off balance. Pro mode gives you control of the bike almost 100%, but at the same time you can screw up easily.

I came to this forum to enjoy playing this game, and chat to other people about it. Not to hear someone calling me cocky.

the 600 super sport rms are really enjoyable here. they arent exactly tz125/250 light, but, are powerfull enough to have their moments.

i did a 7'10.710 (haha!) last night on a Suzuki gsxr600rm :)

7.01.9xx. and there were a couple of places where i messed up my line big time too. moriwaki cbr1000rr btw.


argh! i accedentally hit square and x at the same time and lost the replay :( :( :(

7.13.176 with a tz250 :D with the current gear ratios, its topping out at 181mph. not bad for 91hp, eh? :lol: i think itd top out around 185, 190 tops.

i could probably do a sub 7.10 if i could get my lines right and stay clean.

[edit - 7'11.8 :D ]

7'04.573 on a TZ250 '03. I managed to get in the dirt and lost maybe a whole second or two.

im so close to a sub 7 minute lap with the ysp & presto i can taste it. i just did a 7'01.6xx and was 2 seconds up about half way through only to lose the front end after (i guess) the foot pegs dug in :(

you can doooo iiiittttttt!!!!! put your back into it.

Greetings, fellows. Figured I'd spend my first post in this topic.

(best time so far is 6'55.482 -- pro mode, manual trans)

Uncreated

Welcome to the boards, nice time! :)

6'52.359 in PRO MODE. :mrgreen:

No off's, either.

Edit: http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/120

6'52.374 here. Pro mode as well. Offs like no tomorrow and one near dump.

Been analyzing my numbers on my replay and figured out I stand to better my own time by at least a half second for roughly a mid to late 6'51. I'll post when that happens.

Uncreated

no offence dude (talking to uncreated), but your replay is more than dissapointing. if i ride the hell out of walls, and "mow the grass", then im sure i can pull of a 6.43 or whatever. thats just not the point of making a quick lap. oh, and a half second...over 7 minutes...im sorry, but you cant "analyze" that.

if i ride the hell out of walls, and "mow the grass", then im sure i can pull of a 6.43 or whatever.


I'd love to see that. Regardless, I wasn't aiming to put out a replay of a supposed "perfect" lap -- that's unrealistic and narrowminded. There's no such thing. Complacent people, not realists, say things like "perfect". For the most part, grass and walls slow a person down, isn't that right?

On a side note, I'm advanced enough to recognize that when someone says "no offense but..", they unapologetically offend anyway. No matter, I'm chuckling at this rather humorous turn of events.

And while I'm here, I'll say I'm very aware of your insistence on running laps in pro mode (not to mention running such things as those nebulous "perfect laps"). Having said that, I'll give you a week to come up with even a 6'54, plenty of time for an accomplished pro mode player. You may use any means you choose, including cutting across wide swaths of grassland. And if you succeed at that, we'll have you tackle that 6'43. I know for a fact Stormryder would enjoy that one.

The above will not only put proof to your heroic claims but settle the question of where the hell your Nurburing replay is. For the life of me I couldn't find one.


thats just not the point of making a quick lap. oh, and a half second...over 7 minutes...im sorry, but you cant "analyze" that


The following is my analysis of your post.

You obviously didn't view my replay. You may have seen it, but you didn't view it. There's a very important distinction there.

The grass and walls I did hit did absolutely nothing to lessen the time I achieved. I lost precious time accelerating both on the grass hits and near dump. And even if you want to factor out some sort of advantage you think I willfully took by "riding walls and mowing grass", despite there being no intention of doing so, by all means -- that still puts me at approximately what? 6'54?

Mind telling me why you're the only person that has raised this objection thus far? Certainly hope it isn't the spectre of jealously, but what is clear to me is it appears you can't reconcile the time I achieved with the fact my bike went for a time-killing dance in the meadows and frolicked with steel barriers. Perhaps you can set the record straight.

Uncreated

look, the whole point of a simulation (like TT) is to simulate a real event, in this case, motorcycles, or racing to be more specific. when you crash into barriers, in real life, its a trip to the hospital, not a slight time difference, whether positive or negative.

with regards to: "riding walls and mowing grass", despite there being no intention of doing so...

yeah, ummm, its not only the skill involved to acheive the top time, but the means to get it cleanly. there were numerous times where you obviously lost control and went off course. losing control, like lowsiding, and saving it is one thing, but when you hit barriers because of loss of control, the lap is invalid to me. i dont speak for anyone else, but im sure some have the same view.

i am not doubting your abilities or skills. is obvious that you have some, or you would not have been able to come even close to the 7 minute mark. to surpass it is an achievment for sure.

by stating "no offence" that is what i meant. i was expressing my opinion, and what i think. i dont sugar coat it. it is what it is.

as for why i dont have any replays on the 'ring, i can make excuse after excuse, but that wont solve anything.

to make a long story short...wheni got tt, both of my mem cards were full with gt3 and gt4 data and replays. i had barely enough to hold tt data, and that was about 2 weeks before i joined this board. i didnt know about the usb flash thing. read my posts here. (http://www.motogpboards.com/showthread.php?t=326)

i was unable to save any replays i had...and since i joined, i have been concetrating on the championship rounds. the 'ring is the last round...so i ll have some replays sooner or later.

perfect is relative by the way. there is no perfect, nor perfection. (at least not in racing.)

look, the whole point of a simulation (like TT) is to simulate a real event, in this case, motorcycles, or racing to be more specific.


You're being ignored pending a replay. Any chatter from you outside the offer of said replay constitutes a waste of my bandwidth.

Uncreated

I honestly have to agree with everything Calla has said... being that I rarely ever go off track anymore at the Ring, I remember it took twice the effort to keep the bike on the track and off the grass. Those white lines serve a purpose.

I honestly have to agree with everything Calla has said...

That's nice, however, don't need to point out to you (of all people) that I hadn't secured any sort of advantage in the replay by inadvertently running off the track. It's quite obvious that I hadn't, so what you're agreeing with is of no relevance to me. Besides, Cal is busting my balls because he needs an outlet to vent his 'ring frustration. He reportedly gave up on the track long ago. Too bumpy for him apparently.

Uncreated

He's not busting your balls for the reasons you want to believe. He hasnt given up on the Ring, so if I were you, stop making excuses.

Also, you've got a nack for being full of yourself anyhow.

With all the trash talking you've done on the other forum, I've come to believe that your just full of it anyways.

You come out saying half my lap us "under optimized."

Yet, here I sit down and watch your replay wondering why your saying that since you cant even keep the damn bike on the track. Your horrendously throwing horse shit (sorry Dom) around really, thats my opinion.

So you really want people to recognize you for what times you've done? Your only half way there, you havent even been able to keep the bike on track. I remember the first day you showed up on GTP, man you were so confident you'd come out on top, and along the way you complained a little here and there. Your only half way there.

(Yeah, go ahead and do your thing by picking apart my messages, but you wont get far.)

Also, you've got a nack for being full of yourself anyhow.


Pot calling the kettle black, AJ. Ever wonder why I ignored all those private messages you sent me over at GTPlanet? Well, for one, you behave as if you're the Tourist Trophy messiah who expects people to prostrate as your feet in search of help. I can quote you a million ways. Just ask. Even our mutal friend Callaghan called you on it a mere few posts back in this thread. I put a quick end to our correspondence the moment you insisted on calling me your "apprentice." To hell with that. I've been playing console racers before you were born, son.

Think I'd know better than to fall into your trap, having me beg you for help then claim to have made me the moment I secure some success in the game. You're the typical volatile teenager that people would be best steering clear of. You're ALL ego.

I watch you very closely. You're quite the cut and paste kid. Every announcement of a faster Nurburing run you copy verbatim from your word proccessor and paste into every messageboard on the Internet, as if you can't sleep at night if you don't get the approval you desire. You create every pretext in the book to proclaim yourself some sort of authority in this game, up to and including writing those useless FAQs.

EARN your respect, man, don't beg for it.

So there, now you know.

Uncreated

The apprentice thing was a joke anyhow, alot of it was (like passing the batton, and everything in between, its a joke). Sorry if I made alot of it sound to serious but that wasnt the purpose. I didnt need you to reply to those messages anyhow. Sure, go ahead and quote them if you want, but it was all hissy fit anyhow.

I know I'm no messiah or w/e your termanology is. Callaghan had our discussion about that already, so there's no need to refrence to it.


And about cutting and pasting times on three forums.... whats the problem with that? I do that because I want to just post my times and be over with it.

I do the FAQ's to help others, so go ahead then, call me some useless volatile teenager, you've got no clue to who I really am.

..you've got no clue to who I really am.

Likewise. Now perhaps we can move on.

Uncreated

Well, for one, you behave as if you're the Tourist Trophy messiah who expects people to prostrate as your feet in search of help. I can quote you a million ways. Just ask. Even our mutal friend Callaghan called you on it a mere few posts back in this thread.

umm, yeah, we had our differences. but it was simply a misinterpretation. i wont get into it because it done with, but there are no hard feelings. in fact i got his back now, if he needs it.
I've been playing console racers before you were born, son.
i find that hard to believe. umm, i remember "F1 Challenge" for intelivision...that not only has no relevence to anything close to modern sims, but that was in the what, '86?


EARN your respect, man, don't beg for it.
well, lets see. i believe SR has the quickest time so far on this board. i dont know about others as i dont get out much. anyone that can pull a time like that has my respect.

i believe SR has the quickest time so far on this board.

History.

6'52.107

Uncreated

This is the foregone conclusion the last replay should have been.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/icephreak/times.jpg

Uncreated

ok, here is a replay that someone so desperately wanted. in my opinion, it means absolutey nothing. it is neither a decent run, nor a clean run. but its a 6.57 and has 3 crashes involved. compare splits if you want...

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/140 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/140)

The replay is cool as hell, you dumped three times and still managed under a 7 minute time.

my #10 split on this last run i just made, 6.08.xx then the rear wheel had plans of its own after the long straight. well, i guess me and uncreated are in the same basket now...

edit: i just realized that i never posted a link to the replay...ill fix that soon.

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/141

new replay, 6.52

new replay, 6.52


Excellent effort.

Quoted from his replay:

"if i can keep it up on two wheels, i should be able to break the 6.50.mark"

Hell, if you keep it on two wheels, you should be able to beat Stormryder, like everyone else has. Then he'll tell you your effort isn't good enough when pitted against his semi-pro 6'48. Heh.

Uncreated

Excellent effort.

Quoted from his replay:

"if i can keep it up on two wheels, i should be able to break the 6.50.mark"

Hell, if you keep it on two wheels, you should be able to beat Stormryder, like everyone else has. Then he'll tell you your effort isn't good enough when pitted against his semi-pro 6'48. Heh.

Uncreated

Lol, another cheap shot comment. If he kept it on two wheels, he would be at a high 6'49.

Oh by the way... didnt you get the memo... I almost had a pro-mode 6'48 time this morning? Sorry if you missed it.

buel rm 7.13.5xx

[edit'd!]

Excellent effort.

Quoted from his replay:

"if i can keep it up on two wheels, i should be able to break the 6.50.mark"

Hell, if you keep it on two wheels, you should be able to beat Stormryder, like everyone else has. Then he'll tell you your effort isn't good enough when pitted against his semi-pro 6'48. Heh.

Uncreated

dude, you sound sooooo desperate, just...just give it up.

You guys will probably think I'm crazy... but...

I'll pwn your Gixxer's with my Skywave 650 yo! I got a Yoshi pipe on an- no wait! I'm telling the truth! (this is just a joke, dont take it seriously ;) )

Here's the replay.. I did it just for shits and giggles (8'54.791):
http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/143

In a werid turn of events did this thread just change from who the fastest to a how slow can you go? lol

I know my 6.59 ain't going to keep up with ya on the big bikes but wow
I was so unprepared for the breath taking speeds of the skywave 650 WOW!!! 8.47.075

7'07.405 with a yzf-r6 rm :)

7'00.335 cbr1000rrw ... this thing prefers a smoother rider, ride the front too hard and the front end will bottum out quickly (standing you up and sending towards the outside of the corner! doh!)

[edit - i think im going to give up on the cbr-rrw. the engine is stupid levels of strong, but, i cant find a consistint set up thatll let me get the most out of it]

ysp & presto - 7'00.153

thought i finally had it until i bump threw me off course at the over pass >(

Them damn bumps.

New best but i almost layed it down in the last 15 seconds of the lap.

6.54.133 Tiger CBR1000RR I was 6.4xx up on my ghost at the last checkpoint an ended with only 4.8 gap.

Them damn bumps.

Amen to that. If I hadnt of experienced such turbulence... I'd be at a 6'45 by now. But I'm still stuck at 6'48...

You can only go so fast on this track... then the track races you.

So I'm still trying..

New best but i almost layed it down in the last 15 seconds of the lap.

6.54.133 Tiger CBR1000RR I was 6.4xx up on my ghost at the last checkpoint an ended with only 4.8 gap.

Oh noes!

What happened?

Well, you were on a roll to getting a 6'52 time...

So with the speed you were carrying, I'd say you did a 6'52 :D

Hey... how about we get some times down for some street bikes? My best was a 7'15.xxx in a 600RR. What about you guys?

vfr400r (pf/sport exhaust) - 7'55.196

To bad for me the replay doesn't say 6.52. What happened well the few beers i had in me might not of help but, at the bend on the main straight I didn't get to the right enough before cutting back left to make the bend an touched the curbing, then all hell broke loose. Bike was going all over the damn place. Just when i almost get it back under control i barely get the tires in the grass for a slit second an the bike got crazy again. I can't beleive I was able to save it, I thought for sure I was going to eat it, but unlike other times I just keep in the gas an barely pulled out of it. I was just seconds away from a damn fast time an i screwed up.

I tried last night sober to for fix my mistake but after 7 laps of getting close but not under 6.54 I started to drink again but I was already pissied before playing so after the buzz come in I was having problems staying on the bike an even breaking 7 minutes. This weekend I will try again to get my 52.

Got on some street bikes an did alright but had plenty of small mistakes.
999R 7.14.8xx CBR600RR 7.17.4xx

to me it seems like the street bikes are like a blunt butter knife, and the rm counterparts are more of a surgical blade. youll have a hard time making a street bike run perfect. i dont drink, but i cant imagine playing while drinking. :eh: :? too funny. better to drink drive on the game, than in real life.;)

I've done both, rare that I drink outside my house anymore, if i do my wife normal drives. Just drinking an playing not drunk by any means. Last night I was just entering in the early stages of to much to quick. It is easier to relax for me to a certain level pass that point then mistakes start to happen.

i need more patence for this track for me to get under 7 minutes i think. i can only do 3-5 laps before i get too frustraited to enjoy the laps (and make even more mistakes).

I dont even know how many laps I have done :eek:

Probably 500 or more? I dont know... but the end result is really good, to say the least.

well, between TT, GT, F1C, and PGR2 ive done a lot of laps here so i know i can i can do them. but, when i start to push ill make a small mistake or two here and there which is fine. but, i really start to get frustraited when a bump throws me off track or one of tt's various traction controlls kick in. my personal favorite is when landing for the first jump. one of my favorite expernces is i dont always land right from the first jump and the rear will start slide a bit so i flick it into the corner and give it full throttle to slide the bike through the first apex. only what happens is the front end understeers while the rear end spins then the game cuts the throttle so i lose the rear end and crash :wall:

That first jump screwed me for alittle, not nearly as much now as it did before. I started leaning back before getting air an holding it till landing. Trying to get the rear tire down first so the front doesn't hit so hard. An some times slower is faster. Suspension setup my matter alittle but if I'am going to fast my bike will get a funny bounce or slide.

After a few laps when i can't get any good laps going I will change to a street bike or smaller race so I can run the right lines easier for a lap or two then go back to the fastest bikes an I will typical make less mistakes.

You are down to a 7.00 or 7.01 right? You can do it your right there, just got to relax.

this is true. a smaller bike will "teach" the right lines, and how to ride...while a larger bike requires the skills to be put to their fullest use. try a 250 two stroke, or a 400 rm. they work really well in this game, and i quite like them a bit better than the 1000 rms.

so i should jump back on teh tz250 then? ;)

ive just done a lap on a vfr400r and it was really easy to ride. My lap wasn't the fastest ever but it allowed me to get used to the track. So id reccomend using a lower cc bike to get used to the lines and such like cal says. Really helps.

my hats off to the people pulline 52's 50's etc...ive been really trying hard, and so far im at a clean 54. plenty of errors, and the jumps are horrible, but still, im working with what everyone else has...this is incredably difficult! cheers.

The only 250 I would use is the TZ250. Its way fast for a 250. I just typical pic a street bike cause of slower speeds. But honestly any race bike that isn't the newest of bikes will work well. You already know the Ring from GT an PGR2 its just fine tuning for the fastest lines for a bike. I was only making attempts to beat my best time every couple days of playing. The others I ran slower bikes an different tracks to get my brain working right for how to handle a bike vs a car cause I haven't / not allowed to have a bike. Another is finding the right bike for you. All the 8h will break 7 mins but the ysp R1 just doesn't work the best for me, the Tiger CBR1000RR was better suited to me with stock settings the tweaked the settings to help with the bumps alittle. Still sucks at the bumps probably always will. The main straight seems easier to me if I stay close to the left side then move to atleast middle before the bend so I can take it with speed, but i still let up on the gas before making the turn into it.

i cant get pver how hard the 7 honda motor pulls. its got the torque of a freight train!

I'm beginning to run into a huge problem now... and I have no way of fixing it or figuring it out... kind of like es nes's.

Right now, I'm stuck with a 6'50.095 on Pro mode, and with one little off that my rear tire had, also when I clipped the curb a little to hard which slowed me down a little.

But for some reason... I cant get below 6'50.095 OR 6'48.694. It's as if thats the end of the road and there's no more to it. Feels like I'm burnt out or whatever. I'm wanting to go faster, but the faster I go, the more the track eats me up for road kill...

I'm so frustrated right now about it... :(

this is why it has frustrated me, its almost like who can avoid the most bumps, not who has the fastest line...that is not a race to me, its an obstacle course. all that is needed is a little smoothing on some of the rough patches, and it would awesome.

Check this out... does it seem bumpy to you? (Yes, the bike is in MPH):
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2170327835244165398&q=doohan

I agree Calla, it's hard as hell to keep a good line on this track... I understand your point as your not trying to take away credit away from anyones lap time. It's just not what the race track should be like.

I like the jumps, but I hate the bumps that follow right after it.

Are the bumps this big in real life?

I dont believe so.

If they were, than I think the guys who broke the 7 (or 8...?) minute barrier would have flown off the track if they were that big.

In real life, pro race car drivers struggle to get past the 7 (or was it 8?) barrier.


So yeah, its great that I have the times that I do... but I do think there is something more to the Ring than just avoiding bumps.

id hope theyre not that big. if you watch your replays, there are places where the front end instintly uses up all of its travel almost as ive you had hit a speed bump going 170+mph.

My brother was telling me the ring was recently repaved. An he is a bigger ring junkie that I'am. I remember watching in car videos of laps around the ring over a year ago an can remember seeing the drivers bounce around quite a bit. Anyone know how old or new that video is? If I see my neighbor tomorrow I will have to ask her how bumpy it is, she has been lucky enough to due laps of the ring.

I love this track. Storm just name a bike an its on. Damn top level bikes make it hard to run perfect laps but slower models evens out the odds alittle more. Did beat cya on the crap shockwave.

OMFG
6.50.504 99.9% clean on the Tiger CBR1000RR :D

Now this is a story.
I can't beleive how stupid of a mistake I made when i was drinking while tuning the bike last week trying to set a better time for myself which I did get a 6.54 with a fall but still unsatisfied with that time. After reading storm's post an posting my own earlier I had to pick up the controller an just play not going for any kind of good time just for fun. I choose the Zuki DZ-R400SM(more dirt bike that street) Was going to raise the gearing for the ring an noticed the suspension settings on it be the complete opposite for rebound an bound that how i got the tiger setup. I sat there thinking for a minute, that this bike should take bumps pretty damn good. Then it hit me my while I was tweaking the Tiger my dumb drinking ass was thinking backwards(this has happened before to me when driinking playing other games). So I said screw the zuki an got on the Tiger. Fix my suspension an took off. 1st lap missing the fastest line way to often an crashing twice I pulled a 6.59. I was just like wow a horrible lap somehow under 7 2nd lap still off line to often an crash again but the sections were i had been having problems are easy now, but former easy section aren't anymore pulled a 6.55 3rd Lap off line a lot but still much better got a huge gap(5+seconds) on my ghost entering the big straight. Brakeing for the 3rd to last corner bike got unstable an I ate me some freakin wall again, almost broke me a controller too. Got a 6.52 4th lap an getting real sick of fallin now. I do get off track for a blink of a eye, an still can't get my turn in right to be on the fastest line but still alright an I don't fall for once, an pulled the 6.50 Since then I haven't been able to ride for crap from being to excited, knowing that now I can break under the 50 mark. I just need to chill out an run some more laps with the new setup.

Sorry for the story but I feel like a bad mofo right now.:rockon: :rockon:

How old is Doohan getting anyway? Looked like my grandma riding that bike.

I did a lap this morning, and I crashed at the very end, and lost four and a half seconds...

Ended up with a 6'49.653 on that lap.... :wall:

I can't even have a try because iv'e get massive sores on my fingers from the gtp wrs race lol.

with round 10 of the champs being at nurb, i thought i'd have a pro mode practice.

1st time i've got round a whole lap in that mode, got 7:06.534

with round 10 of the champs being at nurb, i thought i'd have a pro mode practice.

1st time i've got round a whole lap in that mode, got 7:06.534

I'm at 6'50.095

i won't be catching you next week then, eh? :lol: i'd be very happy to dip below the 7 though

Lol, you can catch me.

I'm just trying to crack my 6'48 time.... blasted bump took away 4 seconds...

I would of had at least a 6'44 time....

Least a 44, damn an I was just starting to get close

6'47.679 is my new time, but I screwed up on a corner. That probably took a second and a half's worth of momentum out. Then I didnt get one of the braking points right in numerous areas. That probably took away another second or two.

6.49.195 I held back threw one of the sections i now have problems with an still almost lost it. I've been .7xx up on this time but end up losing it.

6.49.195

Pro mode?

Uncreated

semi pro

Here's the replay to my 6.49 lap if anyone had doubts.


http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/164

i finally managed a sub 7 for the ttsbk race then managed a 7'05.8 on a r6 rm ... i was finally able to maintain a rythium :D

i thought it was about time i took my namesake bike to nurb :) the lap seemed very relaxed after round 10 on the sbk's :eek:

lap time was 7:29.989, here's the replay (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/169)

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g120/750F-RM/750f-rmnurb.jpg

6'45.385.

I wiggled alot, so I'm sure half a second at least was lost. Replay to come soon.

:clap: this should be good

great time!! http://www.wera.com/graphics/smilies/bow.gif

6'45.385.


Nice.

Uncreated

:rockon: LOL, still 7,25's for me

Here it is:

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/170

7'.39".484" on the CBR600 RM, is that a good score for that size bike?

Spire has a 7'01 with a zx-6r rm replay uploaded at click me! (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/139) and ive done a 7'05.8 with the yzf-r6 rm.

trying to get the ducati under 7 is going to give me fits ... i can feel like. i just dont like the way it turns in. 2 slow 2 turn in. haha.

7'04 though. any set up tips from the duke bros? :lol:

[edit - its just not co-operating. ive weakened the front brake a notch or two and stiffening the bound only made it worse (4/4 up to 5/5) but rebound to 8/8 (from 7/7) made it slightly better. springs are 6/5 atm]

any set up tips from the duke bros? :lol:
f/r

springs 4/3
preload 4/6
bound 3/3
rebound 6/6

brakes 6/1

gearbox set using gt tranny trick, then final drive set to give 230mph top speed

hopefully some of that may be of help to you :)

thanks ... ill give them a try when i get the chance :)

btw - im going be going through this thread and going to set up a leaderboard sometime this weekend. it would be a great help if people with a vareity of bikes/times if you could post a quick cheat sheet and what style you use (semi or pro). a link to a replay would be helpfull as well.

this isnt nesacary, but, would be very helpfull as well as keep your times current http://www.motogpboards.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

trying to get the ducati under 7 is going to give me fits ... i can feel like. i just dont like the way it turns in. 2 slow 2 turn in. haha.

Reduce your arm and leg angle.

Uncreated

if you could post a quick cheat sheet

um, what's a cheat sheet? :? :redface:

a list of your times with what bikes and what mode they were done in (tt mode or arcade and semi or pro)

:)

Just destroyed my personal best by over a second. I'm down to 6'48.175.

Uncreated

i have to say...i admire you guys. the patience and persistence is just not in me. i cant stand to do this track long enough to get into a decent rhythm. itll be interesting to see what times are being thrown around in a year or two. i think if you got a lap in just right...6.43.

uncreated: great time, kepp it up.

Just destroyed my personal best by over a second. I'm down to 6'48.175.

Uncreated

Whoa... now thats another time to admire 8O

Here is a simple sheet of who has done what:

6'45.385 - -SR-
6'47.xxx - -SR-
6'48.175 - Uncreated
6'48.694 - -SR-
6'49.xxx - Uncreated
6'49.xxx - Spire
6'49.xxx - Kman

uncreated: great time, kepp it up.

Thanks.

Uncreated

Replay for anyone interested.

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/179

I think I chopped the majority of my time off on the bend after the straight; been practicing that. Fastest I managed to round the corner is 217MPH. I'm a bit on the conservative side in the replay for obvious reasons. Didn't want to crash. Took the bend at 200MPH.

Uncreated

LOL, I'm afraid to take the bend that fast! I always seem to bounce around alot. I keep playing with the bikes suspension and gears but all I can manage is a 7'20".XXX".

LOL, I'm afraid to take the bend that fast! I always seem to bounce around alot.

Two things: set your suspension real soft.

For a visual on how to take the bend as fast as possible, have a look at my two-minute demo replay. I've included a full explanation on how to do it most effectively.

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/176

Uncreated

Few pics from my 6'48.175 run. All but one of them isn't edited for color or exposure, so they might be a bit dark on your screens. Second pic from the bottom is my rendition of the "Stormryder Left Side Technique."

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/icephreak/th_IMG_0001.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/icephreak/IMG_0001.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/icephreak/th_IMG_0009.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/icephreak/IMG_0009.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/icephreak/th_IMG_0004.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/icephreak/IMG_0004.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/icephreak/th_uncreated2.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/icephreak/uncreated2.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/icephreak/th_uncreated.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/icephreak/uncreated.jpg)

Uncreated

moriwaki cbr600rr - 7'23.248

7'11.967 on a ZX-10R (performance tires and exhaust). This is beginning to peak my interests to see how fast I can go.

You guys are quick !!

My best are -

7'07.xxx on a CBR1000rm (first run - nice bike !)
7'11.xxx on the 999R RM (sure this will crack the 7 min mark)
7'14.xxx on the R1.

I know I can beat the magic 7 min mark, had laps down to 5'22 on GT4 !!

Replays and photo's to follow.

7'07.xxx on a CBR1000rm (first run - nice bike !)


Very. Rides like its on rails.

And if that's the time you clocked for your first run, then you're definitely one to watch for in the future. Keep it up.

Uncreated

Stormryder,

I still think you're an idiot, but I'm getting a chuckle out of the crook that's pawning off your 6'45 replay as his own. I'll leave it to you to find out who it is.

That's why I steer clear of using the 8HR bikes to set my times; my red helmet, #9 plate and 6'48.175 guarantees me beyond a shadow of a doubt nobody rips off my replays and claims them as their own.

Uncreated

actually ... anyone can use any form/outfit/number copy. no one of those things are unque to anyone 1 copy of TT. though, from my understanding the nakano lids are only in the japanesse version of the game as well 2-3 bikes being added to each new release (ntsc-jp/pal/ntsc-na)

Stormryder,

I still think you're an idiot, but I'm getting a chuckle out of the crook that's pawning off your 6'45 replay as his own. I'll leave it to you to find out who it is.

Well... maybe my comment would please you as I've clarified everything. I wont be mean, but I find it funny that your calling me an idiot :lol:, and call me an idiot all you like because I really dont care of it, it's just a bunch of words that are trying to enforce your opinion.

actually ... anyone can use any form/outfit/number copy.

Well, in my case, there's no need to do a double take. Anyone could equal my Nurb record, but odds are nobody does it with a #9 plate, red helmet white boots and a CBR100RR. At least not anytime soon.

Uncreated

Well, in my case, there's no need to do a double take. Anyone could equal my Nurb record, but odds are nobody does it with a #9 plate, red helmet white boots and a CBR100RR. At least not anytime soon.

Uncreated

To add something, the possibilty of using someones exact riding form is kind of slim. Only way to duplicate one is copy off of a replay (difficult, as you would need to recognize everything), or ask the person who has the specific rider form.

To add something, the possibilty of using someones exact riding form is kind of slim.

That's another thing. Anyone ever asks me for my riding form, no way, no how. Bike settings I'd be willing to share, but my riding form is the only thing that makes my player truly unique.

Uncreated

What use would it be? Everyone's style of play is a little different than another. Using a rider form that fit's you is what work's, not someone elses. I've got 2 rider form's, closest person to one of the form's is Ape's, but it's still alot different. The other one, I havent seen anyone else have a look-a-like.

I'll give people a picture of my riding form, that's as far as I go, lol.

you can get someone else form with a picture if you give out replays. it may not be exact, but, probably get it really close.

That's why I said it was slim, a picture wont tell you everything. It's hard to get the head angle, seat position, etc. from a picture. Dont forget that the rider height affect's alot of how the rider form looks.

this is true, but, even rider height is adjustable at any time.

7'07.660 on a ZX-10R Street :lol:

Pretty nifty replay as I got airborne and landed it perfectly, thinking I would of crashed.

ive not done many laps here since i first went under 7 minutes. though went for a quick blast (1 lap) on the cbr-rrw and was easyly doing a 6.58 though it wasnt my cleanst run line wise.

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/220

Replay for all to see.

im ~3 seconds off a sub 7 on a 600rm. im down to a 7'03.8 with the zx-6r rm. i could probably do it but im getting nervous in a few curical places so im not very smooth and boncing around a lot in those areas :neutral:

i might go back at it with the r6 rm and cbr-rr rm after i try to reclaim the top spot in the ttws on monday ...

you can do it man. you definetely have the pace!

decado, that lap was suweeEEEEttt. looks like that is all that things' got. nice piece of riding!

:)

i just jumped back onto the tz250 and it feels like theres some much potenial in, but, it feels weird and distint. and it feels so nice in the tz250 challenge.

7'07.827 fwiw

i was 1.9 up on that last time only hit a bump under the bridge and then bounce off every barrier (somehow staying on the bike) and end up beating my time by .009

i keep getting up to 1 second quicker, but, something stupid keeps happening and ill crash.

:wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:

goal time with the tz250 appears to be a 7.05 atm.

so much for that goal time, 7'03.398 which is quite literally a blink quicker than my zx-6r rm time. heh.

7'08.492 (.832 seconds behind my ZX-10R's time :eek: ) on a Honda CBR 600RR.

I used the stock exhaust and perf. tires. Tried a run with the perf. exhaust, but wow the damn ghost pulled away out of corners and onto the straight's like it was a 1000cc bike.

I'll load er' up soon.

Edit: http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/234

7'07.850 on 600RR... man I love this bike :D

I think I can also get the 1000RR street bike under 7 minutes, that'll be hard though.

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/246

decado, that lap was suweeEEEEttt. looks like that is all that things' got. nice piece of riding!

Wait till you see this one :D

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/249

It says 7'07 but I meant to put 7'05. New rider form, too.

Well, tonight I jumped back into Nordschliefe after an extended hiatus, and I was astonished to realize my split times we're way faster than they've ever been. I flew around bends smoother than ever before, took the massive jumps faster than ever (150 mph at the first one) and generally felt far less tested by the track than in the past. Testament to my improvement I guess.

All I need to do is log a clean lap and I predict it'll be noticeably faster than my existing 6'48. We'll see.

Uncreated

6'47.520. Not entirely clean.

Uncreated

hi all :) i just bought a video capture device (dazzle dvc) and made my first tt movie

it's my sub 7 run from round 10 of the ttsbk season. i had to cut the quality down so
it would upload, and i added too much brightness

still, it's my 1st attempt with the tech, so it'll do for now :D 999RM @Nurb (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VltFjXRvBkA)

Very good Teamy Go Go Duke :D

P.S. Fancy Putting My Beginner Course Time Up ( Team Duke ):lol:

P.S. Fancy Putting My Beginner Course Time Up ( Team Duke ):lol:
yeah, no problem teamy :D i'll have it up by this evening

edit: here you go celtic's record run at the beginner course (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFdQ7OPyaG4)

Now that I look at that replay, Celtic, I can say you lucked out. Hard. Your run was the result of a fluke anomaly (that power slide in the chicane). :)

Short of duplicating said anomaly, I'd be hard pressed to top your time. No worries, I'm perfectly willing to cede the Beginner Course crown when I'm absolutely certain a normal line through that chicane can't produce anything lower than what I've already achieved.

Now perhaps you can trying cracking my Citta (1'31.596), Valencia (1'34.768), High-Speed Ring (1'05.973), Deep Forest (work in progress, 1'15.305) or Nurburgring (unofficial 6'47.5xx) runs.

Uncreated

It was there but now it's gone :?

I still hav'nt seen it as the replay was unavailiable to play for some unknown reason - even though at first it was in your uploaded Vids 750F then when i returned to your personal vids it was gone :?

FYI Uncreated it is known as Torque Steer ;)

For some unknown reason it's now back :twisted: :D

Cheers Teamy now saved on my PC as an FLV file ;)

FYI Uncreated it is known as Torque Steer ;)


Don't lie dude, that wasn't intentional. :)

Uncreated

it's just a trait of the Duke :D

Well.. um...

6'43.698 is my new time... and I can go even further with it. Woohoo!!! :D

Edit: 7'05.551 with a ZX-10R (stock)

Thats Just Unreal Decado :twisted:

I believe that puts you a couple of seconds now to your nearest rival ;)

Are you still Running the Moriwaki Tiger ?

and when is it up on You Tube :P

Thanks Celtic. Yeah I used the Moriwaki as usual, great bike. I just need to find someone who play's TT that can encode the video for me :?

I'm now what... 4 seconds ahead?

after a long absence from the ring, i jumped on the cbr6rr rm for a couple laps. made some minor tweaks here and there and came up with a 7'06.667. i wish i could get her to turn in a bit quicker though with a bit less on throttle understeer.

I'm now what... 4 seconds ahead?

Four seconds ahead of who?

Uncreated

Who do you think?

Who do you think?

HeHe Here We Go Again :P

Who do you think?

In that case, that must've been some spectacular pro mode effort. Can't wait to see it.

Uncreated

Do the math:

6'43 and 6'47. Take the 3 and 7, then take the 7 and subtract 3 from 7.

7 - 3 = 4 second difference.

(Now I don't care what your thoughts are, but you should have never of debated any of this in the first place. I read your post before you deleted/edited to the new one. This new one you wrote is mocking me... but I do not care.)

Now I don't care what your thoughts are, but you should have never of debated any of this in the first place.

There is no debate, because your position isn't exactly universal nor logically sound, at least not among those with a modicum of sense. Listen, I loathe repeating myself, but how you do not find it altogether insane to be comparing an 8HR run in semi-pro to a standard RM run in pro is beyond me.

Celtic on the other hand implicitly understands the difference, and thus I have no complaints against his superior Valencia and Beginner Course runs.

I take this no further because this is just crazy.

Uncreated

Not really, and I needn't repeat that to pit a semi-pro run on an 8HR bike
against a pro run on a standard RM, especially on a track as ridiculously long
as Nordschleife, amounts to a lopsided comparison. It's that old apples and
oranges thing again. I will no longer debate this.

Uncreated

Well... suit yourself then since you say there is no debate

I appreciate your assistance in driving home my point. See you later.

Uncreated

I almost had a 6'52 time today with the R600 RM but I keep crashing the bike... its fucking rediculous. Everytime after that it seemed as the track grabbed the bike and just lunged it off onto the side, forcing me to slow down and take a corner wide. Eventually I'll be able to get a time but I dont know if I'll get lucky and get 6'52 again, I would like to.

i've been there Decado on Valencia i was 0.8 sec faster which would bring me to a record of 1.33.2XX in pro mode, and then in the first corner after split1 it looked like god himself took my bike and pushed it of the road :S
Sinds then i never even got close to that split, hopefully one day i will

i should really get back into hot lapping here, id love to dip below a 7 on a 600 and 6'55 with a litre rm. but, once i started hitting consistant 6'58s with litre rm's i lost interest :?

hm ... the yoshi gsxr is really wobbly here.

[edit - 6.55'9. i went soft with the spring and bound and higher on the rebound to hopefull keep things in check. but apparently i went to far with something because the really fast/bumpy parts (like right before the second karasol style corner) it can really get out of shape. ive ruined a few laps by digging foot pegs into the pavement]

7'15 CBR1000RR factory ( medium F-R ) w/ a couple mistakes , a clean run maybe around 7'10's

Hey Immigrant. Just noticed you posted here already. So far I'm at 6'43.xxx (x's mean that i cant remember the numbers) and thats the fastest outright time here and possibly anywhere.

Do you know how to download and upload replays?

Opportunity knocked and you answered -- perfectly on cue.

Uncreated

Celtic and Mthelien, you guys going to run here soon? I'm anxious ;)

Why ?

It takes a long long time to learn the track to be able to push out times like yourself and TU and remember I have never owned a copy of GT4 either so I am learning the track from scratch :P

Just wondering, not trying to push you guys. We are all in the championship so I thought I'd ask.

It takes a long long time to learn the track to be able to push out times like yourself and TU and remember I have never owned a copy of GT4 either so I am learning the track from scratch :P

Indeed, I have GT4 and I've never completed it beyond eleven percent. Great game, but it just didn't hold the appeal Tourist Trophy does for me. I had to learn Nordschliefe from scratch when I bought TT. Probably took at least a month of some serious hair-pulling effort to learn the track to a reasonable degree; even today I still realize I'm finding faster lines through some of the turns. It's a brutal, brutal track.

Uncreated

Celtic and Mthelien, you guys going to run here soon? I'm anxious ;)

yea i'm going to test only at this circuit for like 3 months :D, which still would be 2 days a week.

Sinds i'm not going to have time for the championship i'll let that be and try again next one and hope that i've time then

btw the best times that are posted are those in pro or semi-pro??

most times posted are in pro with teh execption for -decado-s afaik.

that reminds me i need to upload the replay soon

ok good too know, i've tested a bit yesterday but i noticed that i've got a long way too go :D

ello all :) i've had a look, but my eyes aren't what they were, so can someone tell me what the fastest
clean (bearing in mind we're allowed a little more slack at nurb) pro mode run here is?

tia all :D

i remember there were some 6'50s in the superbike race from a little while ago. im personally at a 6'55 with the yoshi GSX-R1000 8Hour.

cheers, i'll go and look there :) 6:55's pretty good nes :D my pb is 6:58, on the duke

so can someone tell me what the fastest clean (bearing in mind we're allowed a little more slack at nurb) pro mode run here is?


6'48.175.

Uncreated

the big gsx-r1000 rm doesnt seem to like the big bumps of nordschliefe ...

6'55.850, Ducati 999R , pro mode, manual transmission

8O

I don't suppose PAL replays are of much use here?

Welcome to the boards sonic blue. :) The more PAL replays the merrier. I'm a Brit but have not really ventured into TT for a while now. We do have quite a few UK / EU folks about though.

To help foster some activity on Nordschliefe, if anyone wants or cares for a listing of split times on my 6'48 pro run, just ask. That should provide you with a reasonable point by point benchmark on where your own works-in-progress runs stack up. I personally haven't raced the track in quite some time (pulling a fast and clean run is damn tough), but I'll be getting back to it shortly.

Uncreated

This is my run of the Nurburgring
http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/393

I managed a 6'53.7 this time 8O but it is still not a perfect lap

I wonder if there is a better bike for it than the Ducati? Which bike are you using Mr Uncreated and how do I win it? I think I can take your 6'48 hehehe :twisted:

Which bike are you using Mr Uncreated and how do I win it? I think I can take your 6'48 hehehe :twisted:

The Ducati is more than capable of scoring a 6'48.

I used the CBR1000RR RM. Earn it through Challenge Mode.

Uncreated

ive got a decent time on the stock zx 10. nothing incredible, but a cautious 7.14.310 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/394). all clean.

Just got a 6'49.822 8O :) ;)

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/398

Just got a 6'49.822 8O :) ;)


Congratulations. Keep going.

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Thanks, you know I have been up all night a few times running the 'ring :lol:

But I really need an analogue button for the rear brake! I could shave heaps of time off if I could actually brake into corners rather than braking in a straight line beforehand

Does anyone know of any ps2 controllers that have really squishy shoulder buttons with plenty of travel like the gamecube controller has? (it really irks me that there is no gamecube to ps2 controller adapter)

edit: idea of the century: use my Logitech Driving Force Pro pedals as rear brake!

Thanks, you know I have been up all night a few times running the 'ring :lol:


But of course. Unless you're extraordinarily gifted, which most of us aren't, I know exactly what kind of effort it takes to do what you've done. I've personally lost track of how many hours I've sunk into this track, but it's something on the order of hundreds. I'm playing catch up with the rest of the game (currently at around 35% completion), having relatively little experience on other tracks because of it. Nurburgring represents a massive, massive time investment.

As for the analog buttons, just try experimenting with different controller layouts. The DS2 buttons, I'm sure you're aware, simulate analog control with pressure sensitivity. I find it easier to control this by using the face buttons as opposed to the shoulder ones, personally (brakes are X and O).

One more thing. If you need to use rear brake during cornering, chances are you're going too fast. Brake in a straight line, then modulate your velocity and line throughout the turn by tapping the front brake. Just something to consider.

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Just got a 6'49.822 8O :) ;)

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/398
nice lap :clap: this is in no way a criticism, so don't take it as such. you're way ahead of me at nurb', so this is merely an observation

you were tying yourself in knots in places on that lap. if you smoothed it out a bit, i bet you'd gain a fairly sizable chunk of time

kudos to you for 6:49 though, that's quick 8O

you were tying yourself in knots in places on that lap. if you smoothed it out a bit, i bet you'd gain a fairly sizable chunk of time


lol yep I definitely stuffed it a fair bit, it wasn't very clean. Since posting that time though I have come up with some completely new lines through some of the corners that are saving massive amounts of time. If only I could pull them off all in succession, I think it would result in a low 6min40sec lap. Very difficult though.

I think it would result in a low 6min40sec lap. Very difficult though.

That would be more than a monumental effort, though I would not put it past you for your sheer persistence.

Looking forward to your improved effort.

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Not sure why I took so long to upload this, but here it is:
http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/404

My good ol' 6'43 time :D

Looking forward to your improved effort.

How about a 6'48.154? (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/407) 8O

I only screwed up one corner - the one before the second carousel, went a bit wide there :eh:

Apart from that it's pretty much a clean lap, not sure how I can improve on it by much except for using a different bike? Cause I pretty much pushed every corner to the max.

Also in this replay I am using my own custom rider form which I think looks cool (more tucked and leaned-in) ;)

And just to show off my leet skills :lol: :lol: :roll: here is the full 2 lap replay from which the above was taken - 6'52.162 followed by 6'48.154 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/408)

Proves it wasn't a fluke and that I can keep up the pace!

Both are perfect laps except for 1 corner on each.

Both are perfect laps except for 1 corner on each.

obviously not if theres a 4 second differnce between the two laps ;)

"perfect" is a word that will get you in trouble around here. ;)

how about "perfect" = never crashed, went on the grass or missed an apex?

As for the 4 second difference I'm really not sure, watching both laps they look just as clean and neat as each other. I think I just went harder out of corners on the second lap? Can't really explain it.

It's a shame I can't watch your NTSC version replays to compare. Perhaps I will pick up an NTSC copy off ebay just for the sake of it :)

"perfect" is a word that will get you in trouble around here. ;)

LOL!

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6'48.154?

Nice. I'll be back with at least a 6'46. Promise.

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Nice. I'll be back with at least a 6'46. Promise.

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The race is on...

The race is on...

OH, IT'S ON!! :) :) :) :) :) :)

nuh you'll probably beat my time cos honestly I can't seem to push much harder than 6'48, I felt like I was really giving it all I've got

oh well, I'll just bask in the glory while I can :P

nuh you'll probably beat my time cos honestly I can't seem to push much harder than 6'48, I felt like I was really giving it all I've got


Trust me, you can go faster. You're still conditioning your Nurburgring reflexes. At some point, provided you continue practicing, you'll hit that clarity moment and really begin to flow.

As for me, I've been as fast as 6'04 to the checkpoint at the beginning of the straight only to dump it at the end. To this point I've managed a mid-6'47 with major speed-scrubbing mistakes, so I hope to do at least an early to mid-6'46. We shall see.

And since I can't view your replay, mind posting your split times when you get a chance?

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T1 43.252
T2 1'16.875
T3 1'43.876
T4 2'33.494
T5 3'09.928
T6 3'34.537
T7 4'22.181
T8 5'03.582
T9 5'26.214
T10 6'07.853
T11 6'26.304
6'48.154

Wouldn't mind comparing with yours if you have them

cheers

Wouldn't mind comparing with yours if you have them


Yeah, I'll dig it up if I manage to find my memory card and DS2. I've been travelling with my PS2 and I think I may have lost both. Hopefully not.

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Here it is. Third column shows who had the advantage at each checkpoint and by how much. Ignore the underlines -- Microsoft Word foolishness.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/icephreak/nurbsplits.jpg

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all this activity made me want to revisit the nurb myself, and i improved my pb by 3 seconds, to 6:55.367

my bike set up was quite a bit different to what i used before, and the bike seemed way tamer than usual

i used the duke, as i want to wring as much as i can out of the 1000 rm's before moving on to the 8hr bikes

all this activity made me want to revisit the nurb myself, and i improved my pb by 3 seconds, to 6:55.367


Congrats, and by all means, jump in on the action. I could use another reason to get back to fighting the Green Hell again.

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finally managed to get the 999r rm under the 7 minute mark ... now to go faster.

lol @ split times

You had me the whole way and then I pipped you at the post :lol:

I would like to know what your riding style is though - lean in/out?

Also I just won the 7 Honda and it seems to be a bit faster at the ring so it's goodbye to the duke for me and hopefully a 6'46.

We need a leaderboard for lap records, can anyone be bothered?

using a triumph speed i managed a 7:48 so far... feels so damn cool that bike

I would like to know what your riding style is though - lean in/out?

Custom, but it's far more lean in than out.

Also I just won the 7 Honda and it seems to be a bit faster at the ring so it's goodbye to the duke for me and hopefully a 6'46.

Faster indeed to the tune of 1.5 seconds for every minute and a half of racetime when compared to the 1000cc RMs, but why stop with the standard race-modifieds? You nor I haven't even nearly found terminal velocity on our bikes of choice. Plus, the 8HR class on Nurburgring hasn't been run competitively (as in under 6'50) by anyone besides Stormryder, let alone in pro mode, thus it'll be a lonely show. Hang with us a bit more in the RM class before you jump over.

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Managed to get a 6'46.897 on the Honda 7 :)

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/416

took some pics:

Make that 6'45.858 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/417)

Make that 6'45.858 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/417)


You're on a roll there, man. Unfortunately work has me, so I haven't been able to put much time into to the game, but I hope to get at it this weekend. Here's hoping I could translate my smoking 1'14.8xx to second checkpoint into something worthwhile.

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1'14, damn that is quick.

Those first 2 sectors have me baffled. I take the same lines every time and sometimes it gives me low 1'16's but others 1'17 even 1'18 , I cannot figure it out. Maybe it has more to do with how fast you take the jumps?

1'14, damn that is quick. Maybe it has more to do with how fast you take the jumps?

:) ;)
that, and ive found the left before the second sector has a lot of time in it.

Nurb never really was my track. I tried running it today and got a 7'47 with one crash and a handful of burns.

Guess that's just my nature, any time laps get to be 3-4+ minutes it breaks my concentration.

Maybe it has more to do with how fast you take the jumps?

Very true, and Cal is very correct about the left bend before the second sector. Approach it a certain way and at a certain speed and you can gain a massive amount of time. It's tough to explain except to say you should never at any point be below 135 miles per hour around that bend. That means you'll have to get back on the gas earlier than you probably are now.

A trick that seems to work well: tuck just before your wheels touch the ground during jumps, you'll land more stably from higher speeds.

I think the absolute biggest gain between start and second sector though is in the set of flip-flops before the first straight -- "Hatzenblatz" or whatever the name of that stretch is. I think I have it dialed in; my best first sector time is 0'41.4xx.

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The bend that is being talked about, is the one before or after the jump? I could give suggestions if I knew which one was being mentioned.

after the high speed jump. i usually land it on the right side. then turn in on the brakes and hold a steady throttle til im about out of it. i actually hit the brakes at the end of that turn and slide it a little over to the left for the next right which takes you under the banner for the secend sector time.

6'42.401 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/419)

PWNED :)

PWNED :)

Farkin' fantastic. Now perhaps this will put an end to all the "King of the Ring" braggart bullshit out of a certain unnamed friend of mine. Pardon my frankness, but it needed to be said.

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I certainly would suggest shutting the fuck up yourself TU :D

You've got some sort of inter-personal conflict with me on this forum, I dont ask why nor do I care but it does get very annoying. Thats great someone got 6'42. Lets see you do it.

Thats great someone got 6'42. Lets see you do it.

Bear in mind I've barely entertained the idea of running an 8HR bike around this track in all the time I've been running it. Despite the fact they're a universe faster than the standard 1000ccs, they are not my bikes of choice due to the fact plate numbers and gear cannot be customized.

I only hope that now that you cannot boast to have the "lowest" time on this track, that all the dumb "King of the Ring" banners come down, the irritating messiah complex ends and the copy-and-paste campaigns die. You were never the authority you claim to be on this track, and now Sonic has sealed it with a doubly superior effort: both faster and in pro mode -- I heartily congratulate him for it.

I don't know about anyone else, but I feel renewed now that there is new Nurburgring competition in Sonic that I can relate to. I can only forsee an even bigger playing field once Empty Space and the others cut even further into their own personal bests; for the game's sake I'm cheering them on.

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I only hope that now that you cannot boast to have the "lowest" time on this track, that all the dumb "King of the Ring" banners come down, the irritating messiah complex ends and the copy-and-paste campaigns die. You were never the authority you claim to be on this track, and now Sonic has sealed it with a doubly superior effort: both faster and in pro mode -- I heartily congratulate him for it.

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You are one sad puppy. :lol: You are supposed to be keeping "in line" because you feel you are one of a kind to keep "people like me" in line. You're slacking. There was never any motive like you say I have to promote myself. I dont give a rats ass what you think I have, because I know it isnt true. Sonic is good, very good. I can do the same just like him, and anyone else. It baffles me that you cant come to grips its just a game, and you are the only one who firmly believes that everyone should run Pro mode.... all I can say is FUCK YOU. As far as concerned I can run any mode without question. It's my choice to what I use. I play my game the way I want to.

It's my choice to what I use. I play my game the way I want to.

Great, and I don't discourage this, but there's something about facts that consistently seems to elude you. By all means play the game your way, but it needs to be repeatedly impressed upon you that you are not competing on even terms with the rest of us. Matter of fact, given that you're the only non pro-mode player left on this messageboard, you're technically not competing on even terms with anyone.

Look, if you want back into the fray, conform to the norm and put forth a record pro-mode run in the respective bike class. For your own good. As it stands, Sonic holds the fastest Nurburgring times in two classes. Pick one.

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Matter of fact, given that you're the only non pro-mode player left on this messageboard, you're technically not competing on even terms with anyone.

Look, if you want back into the fray, conform to the norm and put forth a record pro-mode run in the respective bike class. For your own good. As it stands, Sonic holds the fastest Nurburgring times in two classes. Pick one.

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Are you blind? I did race in the series for a few races before my teamy disappeared and I decided to not race it. Not to mention I kept up the best of the best. There is no set norm, if there was then every single person on this boards would usher me to conform. It isnt working like that from what I can see, and the only conformity is in championships. So if I were you, stop trying to be one big voice for all yet not all are for the one big voice. Sure, I can run Pro mode but do I? Not really. At the end of the day, all it matters to me is I'm having fun so why give notice?

..the only conformity is in championships.

Nonsense. You cannot play havoc with logic like this -- it makes you look like a blithering hypocrite. You want to compete with others on this track, claim your semi-pro records against pro runs, across classes no less, and tell the world you're the best? Lick my tail, son. Do it on even terms or don't do it at all.

The bottom line is, championships or not, the moment you reduce yourself to comparing your laptimes against others, fall in line and adhere to the norm -- stick to one class and the prevailing controller mode, EVERY TIME. Understand? Your easy mode 8HR run can not and should not be compared to the more difficult pro mode run on a standard 1000cc RM, which you have done and continue to ignorantly do. Shape up, simpleton!

The soundest logic going has your even-term pro run of 6'50 in fourth place in the 1000cc RM class behind Sonic, myself and Spire. Your semi-pro 6'43 laptime stands against one comparable run, a 6'49 if I recall (there have been better on other boards), and that person hasn't uttered a peep on this board since, so you effectively have no current competition.

And those are the unassailable facts. Deny at your own risk.

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Do it on even terms or don't do it at all.

The bottom line is, championships or not, the moment you reduce yourself to comparing your laptimes against others, fall in line and adhere to the norm -- stick to one class and the prevailing controller mode. Understand? Your easy mode 8HR run can not and should not be compared to the more difficult pro mode run on a standard 1000cc RM, which you have done and continue to ignorantly do.


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Your opinion (in fact, all of it is). So how about you shape up, and if I dont do it on even terms... what are you going to do? Stop me? Get a load of yourself. If you had the slightest hint of logic you'd end not giving a damn about any of this.

The rule is: post any times in any mode and any bike, etc but you have to specify the mode. (On behalf of Es Nes/Calla/750)