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How to take part:
Complete the High Speed Ring race in the Heavyweight Series in TT mode. Then save a replay of your fastest race time onto a USB stick from the replay theater area and upload it to TT Replays (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/). The fastest time wins.

Bikes you can use:
Any of the race modified 1000cc bikes apart from the Suzuka 8H bikes.

Deadline:
The chequered flag is out in 2 weeks time (19th of May). Any entries submitted after midnight GMT on will not count. To view the time in GMT logout and scroll to the bottom of the forum.

TT Replays Tag:
All replays for this round should have the tag 'championship-hsr'. You will be able to enter this when you upload your replay to the site.

Important Links:
Replays submitted so far (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/bytag.php/championship-hsr) | Main Championship Rules & Info thread (http://www.motogpboards.com/showthread.php?t=326)

May the best man win. ;)

Good Luck to everyone! hopefully i can get my problem sorted out here so i'll be able to upload.

first race and the fastest lap was a 1.12.0xx. im going to say slow1s going to be hitting consistint 1.08-9s ;)

managed a 1.11.1 fastest running race lap and 1.14 1st lap today on the mighty prilia rm. did you know the gear box trick from gt4 works in tt? :)

i just need to tweak my chassis set up a bit more to work on slightly worn tyres for the last two laps. getting out of the corner isnt the problem, its the getting in that is.

there is one thing im having problems with. in turn one when the corner tightens, why is it that the bike picks itself up, throwing me off line slightly instead of holding a steady line? the replay doesnt show im rubbing the track.

[edit - can we submit as many times/replays as wed like?]

What's the gearbox trick? And yep, feel free to submit as many times as you like. :)

Dom, the gearbox trick or "tranny trick" is something that came over into TT from GT3/GT4. What it does is close couples the gears for good accelleration and uses the final ratio to set max speed.

Go to the Edit setup.

Go to the transmission setup (obviously, this only works with race bikes)

Set Autoset slider all the to the right

Set Final Ratio all the way to the Right

Set Autoset all the way to the left (Setting of "1")

Adjust Final Ratio back to the left (taller gear/smaller number) to desired top speed.

Does this work on both auto and manual trans? I'm aiming for 100% completion before I try manual trans. It sounds somewhat stupid, I know, but I'm not all that coordinated. Besides practice, I need all the help I can get...

Yes, Gman...this adjusts gear ratios. Works whether you shift manually or use a "slushbox" ;)

Does this work on both auto and manual trans? I'm aiming for 100% completion before I try manual trans. It sounds somewhat stupid, I know, but I'm not all that coordinated. Besides practice, I need all the help I can get...


hmmmm...........must be a Harley rider thing lmao don't feel bad, i haven't graduated to manual yet either. Too many damn buttons and not enough fingers it seems like :lol:

Cheers for the info, NoQuarter. :) Is that not just setting close ratios for 1 through 5 and then having a long 6th gear? I'll have to give it a go later to get a better idea I expect.

doubt you'll be seeing and low anythings on this track from me. I hate this track and it does nothing to inspire me to try and get good at it. it's like the oval tracks IMHO. For this and N-ring it will just be about getting decent points and the rest will be shooting for "wins".

I start tonight working on this and see what happens. Yes it's very annoying when for no reason the game stands the bike up!!!

Also are we required to use the same bike through out the competition? I know I'll be sticking with the R1, but was curious if people would be made to stick with their choice. I think it would be more interesting if we had to pick a bike and stay with it through out the comp

As I mentioned in the main rules & info thread (http://www.motogpboards.com/showthread.php?t=326) I don't see any reason why people shouldn't be able to switch bikes between races if they wanted. Tbh I expect most people will just stick with the same bike throughout but there's no harm in picking up a different set of keys every now and then imo.

I quite like the circuit actually. It's not the best of the bunch but although I despise the oval tracks I quite like the fast, sweeping nature of this one. Will have to try and put in a time or two later I think. :)

Yeah, Wizrad that's me.
After playing for a couple of hours, my fingers are cramped, and I can't feel them. As if pressing the buttons through the controller is going to help me brake or accelerate faster. I know better, I just get a little frustrated. Maybe I should get into shifting gears, just for health reasons...

dom - the gearbox trick gives you shorter gear ratios than you could normally get on all 6 gears if you had left the gearbox un"tweaked". then you tweak the final gear (not 6th) for topspeed (though the cube ;) needed further tweaking from there)

question - in one of my runs, coming out of the chiacane, i ran wide and jumped maybe a foot of grass. landed on the raised pavement in the tunnel but didnt hit the wall. would that be legal? ive been aborting runs when i feel the bike bounce off the walls though.

my first replay will be on shortly. its 100% clean, though i did try to highside myself into oblivion exiting turn 1 lap 1. the ai is parked where i should be opening the throttle so ive to run way wide then cut it sharp under the ai. sometimes i get a good drive, other the tyre protests. this time i could "feel" the tyre protesting so i short shifted and the rear end was swinging back and forth down that entire short straight between turns 1 and 2 O_O

doubt you'll be seeing and low anythings on this track from me. I hate this track and it does nothing to inspire me to try and get good at it. it's like the oval tracks IMHO. For this and N-ring it will just be about getting decent points and the rest will be shooting for "wins".

well, considering the italian bikes (execpt the 999r rm) are generally slower than the other superbikes, im thinking a win is out of reach :P. the cube is a fun bike though so im just seeing what i can pull off. i did my first sub 6 minute last night, then the ai starting pissing me off and i lost my speed. more time for laps tonight.

it's not about out right speed (though of course Ducati needs a 200cc advantage even though they won the BSB title last year and Bayliss and Lavillia are whipping everyone this year) so I'm not falling for your talk!!!

anyway I did some laps around the place and I still hate the layout. Don't get me wrong I like fast tracks but there is too much oval here for me.

what I thought was interesting though is that in practise I can do constant low 10s/high 9s but in the race can barely get 12s!?!?!!??!?!

probably the way tyre grip is set up with tyre wear.

fwiw - ive only done one 1.10 and that was a 1.10.9xx. though, mid 1.11s arent a problem. there are a couple of set up tweaks id like to try still too. im hitting the limitier a hair too soon and the s/f straight at 199mph. maybe raise the rear a bit to help keep the front planted on exit then ill just leave it up to my riding.

replay uploaded :)

rider: es nes
motorcycle: Aprilia RSV 1000R Factory RM '05
total time: 5'59.751
fastest lap: 1'10'978

dom - let me know if you want more info or if thats fine or how you want race times submitted? :)

[edit - i think might break up with a aprilia and join the ducati squad. the aprilia is fighting me compaired to the ducati cooperating :( ]

Man, putting together 5 great laps is tough...

Had a best start lap of 1'12.7xx, but highsided the 2nd lap.

Then had 5 good laps going, including two mid 1'09's, and slightly touched the wall exiting the last turn :(

I think 5 solid laps could see a sub 5'50...

*heads off for another round with the 999RM*

Here we go...first clean attempt :)

Rider: NoQuarter
Bike: Ducati 999RM
Total time: 5'52.149
Fast Lap: 1'09.434

Uploading replay...

edit

Well, damn it, my old Mac browsers don't work with the upload page...whatever happened to backward compatability? :(

I'll have to wait to upload from work tomorrow on my Windoze machine.

rider: Slow1
motorcycle: Yamaha YZF R1 RM '05
total time: 5'53.135
fastest lap: 1'09.460

I really hate this track!!!:wall: especially when the bike won't turn in and stands up for no reason!!! guess I'm going to have to mess with the tuning:cry:

question - in one of my runs, coming out of the chiacane, i ran wide and jumped maybe a foot of grass. landed on the raised pavement in the tunnel but didnt hit the wall. would that be legal? ive been aborting runs when i feel the bike bounce off the walls though.
Personally I wouldn't see a problem with that as plenty of riders have lucky escapes in real races, it's just one of those things. Basically I would say that if you use the circuit furniture to improve your lap time then it won't count, but if you have a near-off which you recover from without bouncing off things then it shouldn't be a problem. If anyone's ever unsure about something then feel free to submit it anyway and I'll do the 'race control' thing. ;) I don't want to be too strict really as I know you guys aren't the type to try and cheat at all, basically I just want to keep it as fair as possible.


edit

Well, damn it, my old Mac browsers don't work with the upload page...whatever happened to backward compatability? :(

Dodgy old Mac browsers ruined that plan and unfortunately I'm struggling for time to spend on the replays site atm. I will try and sort something this week, but for now all I can do is be useless and say sorry it's not working and suggest that you try one of the browsers mentioned here (http://www.motogpboards.com/showthread.php?t=308). Nice time though. :)

dom - let me know if you want more info or if thats fine or how you want race times submitted? :)

That's pretty much perfect, I guess the two things that are most important to have here are the overall time and if possible a link to the replay (no big deal on the latter if it's not going to be your final time).

Dom, gonna have to scrap my run...I just checked the rules (which I should have done again, prior to running - shame on me) and I ran that in Semi-Pro mode, so that one is out.

I'll try again tonight, in Pro mode.

Dom, gonna have to scrap my run...I just checked the rules (which I should have done again, prior to running - shame on me) and I ran that in Semi-Pro mode, so that one is out.

I'll try again tonight, in Pro mode.

No worries. :)

Just had a bash it myself and managed a 5'53.614 which was as clean as a whistle. Pretty pleased with that. :D (Still room for improvement tho ;))

Good one, Dom ;)

I just spent a session (composed of a lot of restarts) and managed a clean 5'56.738...I'm having to learn braking points and apex outs all over again :(

its amazing how much of a differnce that 9hp the 999r rm has over the rsv r factory rm makes. i could make the handling right with a little time, effort, but, it just doesnt leap out of corners the way the 999r rm does.

im going to join NQ on the team fila ducati.

rider: es nes
bike: ducati 999r rm '05
total time: 5'53'753
fastest lap: 1.09.879

replay coming shortly

[edit - replay uploaded. link in first post :) ]

Some improvement...more to come

rider: NoQuarter
motorcycle: Ducati 999 RM
total time: 5'54.449
fastest lap: 1'09.669

I'll wait 'til I get my best time to submit a replay

rider: Slow1
motorcycle: Yamaha YZF R1 RM '05
total time: 5'52.383
fastest lap: 1'09.435

had better but once again threw it away on the last lap for no reason. did a bayliss on one of the straights and kicked up some dirt. for sure it was a mid 51. have to stop now before I break the controller

:lol: Very nice time Slow1. :)

Well, I just tried to improve on my 5'53 and couldn't do better than a 5'58 after three tries. Think I'll leave it for now. :P :doh:

ive improved my time slightly as well as maybe figuring out why the bikes like stand up about 2/3rds of the way through. hint - think of the engine bogging down as PD's traction controll :)

on my fastest lap i hit 205mph just before tosing her on her ear for turn 1.

rider - es nes
motorcycle - duacti 999r rm
total time - 5.52.385
fastest lap - 1.09.433

slow1 - im going to be disappointed if i hit a 1.08 before you ;)

well you will because I just broke my PS2. I've never been one to throw controllers but this game just pisses me off as much as I enjoy it. I can take when I make a mistake,but when the game causes a mistake I think that is BS. LOng story short,best run ever 1.11.943 first lap followed by not one but 2 laps mid 08s 4th lap a high 08 and on the last lap easy a mid or low 09. coming out of the tunnel into that last corner freakin not only does the motor bog down for no reason but the suspension unloads for no reason!!!! I am freakin straight up and down and the suspension unloads!?!?!?!?!?! that pushes me wide and just ruins the whole freakin lap as the motor just slows more. Kicked the PS2 into the wall.

I don't care what anyone says this is just bad lazy programing. if they want to limit lap times then they should just "restrict" the speeds or whatever of the bikes, but to work so hard just to have the game do crap like that..... that has been my biggest problem with this game. It's not consistant which is the very thing any racer needs. how the hell are you supposed to go fast if you have no idea what your bike is going to do from on corner to the next?

before anyone thinks I'm some sort of hot head I've had my PS2 since it first came out (with original controllers), still have my older systems in storage, all of which were the only ones that I purchased. again I've never had a game piss me off so much

i was beggining to think i was crazy..."surely the bike didnt just do that??". i pulled off consistent 1:09's on the race zx10. though i can get into the eights with the cbr1000rm

damn trigger happy finger...i'll have to buy a flash drive thingy so i can put up my replays. it seems if you start getting really good and consistent for a few laps, its like the handling completey changes. im not talking like the tire wear, but like one corner its fine, then the next its just different.

Yeesh, Slow, I wasn't expecting to have retirements. :eek: Is it not working at all now?

I do agree it seems a bit inconsistent at times. I certainly have yet to figure out what is causing the bike to stand up and run wide from time to time for apparently no reason. :(

Just a little public service announcement - one week left to run on this round, so if you do want to enter then it'd be worth getting at least a few practice runs in soon.

(How anyone manages 1'08s I have no idea. Consider me impressed.)

dom - trying increasing your spring rate. im guessing its because the forks are bottuming out. if PD programed it to cut throttle when the rear tyre spins, then wouldnt it make since from them to do something similiar when the forks bottums out? i figure im dragging the fairing on the curbs as well.

NQ - hows this for big brass balls: ive hit 213mph in turn 1 and still made it through the corner. its hard to hit that line consistintaly though.

btw - my best time is down to a 5.51.0 :)

Nice one, es ;)

BTW, es and I are buddies over at one of the Gran Turismo forums, and chat regularly in the Forum Chatroom.

Just completed a better effort. Only problem was on Lap one, when passing the P2 rider on the bridge after Turn 2, he and I had a slight "incident" and bumped and he punted me towards the armco, where my rear tire bumped, slightly...it looked pretty recoverable, and I'll post a replay Monday from work for review, but I'll also keep running...

Rider - NoQuarter
Motorcycle - Ducati 999R RM
Total Time - 5'52.174
Fastest Lap - 1'09.011 (2nd lap)

nq - least youve not ran into the back on the 3rd place ai going at 150+ in turn 1 lap 1 :P

rider: es nes
motorcycle: ducati 999r rm
total time: 5'51'135
fastest lap: 1.09.327

replay uploaded :)

Dom
no the PS2 was pretty much destroyed when it hit the wall (plus I threw the game away). But to this day I'll never understand women. I get back home from a few days out of town and go over to the girlfriend's and what do I find? Another PS2 and copy of TT. The sadistic bitch apparently found it very amusing that something has finally driven me to the point of serious aggression (she thinks I'm too passive) so she went out a bought another copy of the game and system. All freakin night she didn't do anything but try to get me to play the damn game, so she could have a good laugh. Don't know what was pissing me off more the damn game or her taking such pleasure in watching the game piss me off.

Anyway another time to submit. should have been a 50 but again the game did it's thing of lotto handling :roll: :? . Only reason I didn't kick the damn thing again is because I knew the gf would have gotten a huge thrill out of it (she probably has a couple more somewhere waiting!:roll: )

rider: Slow1
motorcycle: Yamaha YZF R1 RM '05
total time: 5'51.272
fastest lap: 1'08.976

Es nes how the hell are you getting to 213mph!?!?!?! I'm barely getting to 200, damn twins ^_^ anyway there's the 08 for you. hope you aren't disappointed

Lmao, Slow. :lol:

Sweet time though. Can't see myself getting anywhere near that.

to be honest I really believe if you apply bike logic to this game you go slower. I have not touched the settings at all aside from using a medium tire. the only thing I changed was to be more concious not to think like I'm riding a bike. I play it like I was GT4 and the game makes more sense. Don't know how close GT4 comes to real physics as I've never driven a car at those kinds of speeds or on a track, but regardless acting like I'm playing GT4 makes it easier to deal with most of the time.

it's really when I start focusing on doing a serious time and foget that, does the game truly drive me mad! I haven't really messed with the settings because of the way the game is. I mean it's one thing if I understand why something is happening and try to make changes to correct that. It's another if things just happen at will for no reason. How am I supposed to make adjustments for that?

anyway for me it's not getting the fast times but more getting them consistantly because there isn't much consistant about the way the bikes perform. Its kind of funny because I'm completely bi-polar with this game. I mean I truly hate it but still want to play it :roll: :lol: . MotoGP4 finally comes out here in a week or so at least I'll have another option...... but in the end I know after a month of so, I'll be back to SBK 2K1

oh and is each round going to last 2 weeks?

Es nes how the hell are you getting to 213mph!?!?!?! I'm barely getting to 200, damn twins ^_^ anyway there's the 08 for you. hope you aren't disappointed

watch my replay. i only take that line through turn 1 one lap 5 though and back off sooner than normal because of tyre wear. just becarefully when coming out of the tuck. if youre not on the throttle the front might tuck.

just one last suggestion. can we reduce races to one week long? hsr was fun, but, im ready to move onto the next round.

i agree with es nes...even though i havent submitted a lap time, but that particular track is a little boring after a while. and ive only done about 50 or so laps.

My intention wasn't that people would have to do the same track over and over and over, more that those without much time on their hands would still have a chance to get an entry sorted. I suppose what could work would be having races overlap a bit. Ie rounds could start a week apart but still go on for the full 2 weeks. That way everyone who wants a change gets it more often and anyone who can't find the time to put in an entry still has a 2 week window to do so.

Sound fair? :)

cool, i understand about the not much time thing. i only play about 2 hrs at a time, and i play maybe every third day, and again maybe on the weekend for about an hour or two. as a matter of fact, i wont be able to get the flash thingy and another mem card until this weekend.

i like the proposed overlapping the races, so that when i get a little pissed with one race, i can do another.

I don't think having the rounds overlap is a good idea and actually kind of takes the fun out of it IMHO. If it's going to be 1 or 2 weeks only one round should be going on at one time.

Personally I'd prefer 1 week rounds because it makes things go by quicker and gives us a chance to start the next round/championship sooner. Between work and travel I don't get as much time to put into the game (1 or 2 hrs a week tops) as I'd like, but I get it in when I can. So if people want to participate then they'll make the time. I mean right now just going by this thread and the replays submitted theres only a few of us running so pretty much any time could get good points. I think it would suck if I had to divide the little time I do have between 2 rounds because someone keeps dropping times on one round while I'm working on another. If a lose this time around oh well I'll work on it next round or next series

es new

I what I actually meant was how you got the bike capable of hitting that top speed? I max the R1 out at just barely over 200mph

ive tweaked my gearboxes a little. im hitting 208 at nordschliefe on the long back straight with the r1 rm.

the easit way to just ajdust the final drive. itll show you the bikes top supposed top speed is at redline (usually the bikes will rev a little past redline before hitting the limiter so they go 1-3mph faster than the graph says.) the better way to do it is the gear box trick. put the final gear all the way to the right, the move the autogear to the right once then all the way down to 1. then move the final gear to aprox what topspeed youll need for the track. if you find yourself redlining too soon, lenghten 5th and 6th gear.

also, leaning your dude back using the anonlg left stick will get more traction over the rear tire, and increase your top speed. i got about 7-8 mph out of the cbr 1000rr rm buy exiting the last corner and just carrying the front wheel about a foot off the ground.

edit: also, after the bike stops lifting the front, keep your dude leaned back, as it will allow you to accelerate harder.

Ok guys, I think Slow1's probably got a point (probably ;)) so next time we'll just do a 1 week round.

And remember: This round closes tomorrow!

(So I better try and improve my time, too...)

Damn, I forgot my own reminder. :doh: Oh well, I'll try and get a better time in if possible, if not then nevermind.

If anyone's currently unable to get their replay uploaded by tonight it doesn't matter as long as it's sorted within the next week, but the full time has to be posted in this thread by the deadline (midnight GMT) or it will not count.

Well, I finally got a decent, clean run but...

It's 7:19 PM EDT, which makes it, what? 12:19? 1:19?

Here it is, anyway...

Rider: NoQuarter
Motorcycle: Ducati 999R RM
Total Time: 5'51.005
Fast Lap: 1'09.049

I'll try to get the replay loaded tomorrow.

hey!!!i just got a 256mb flash drive usb thingy...for 18$ at walmart...and it works on gt4. my buddy currently is borrowing my copy of TT, so i'll skip this round, but count me in for the next.

What brand is it? Might just have to break down and go grab me one.

lexar jump drive...they had it on sale in the electronic department. comes in a huge case for such a small thing...

Ok, Thanks

so when will final results be posted? :)

Results


NoQuarter - 5'51.005 (Replay not yet posted)
es nes (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/71) - 5'51'135
Slow1 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/72) - 5'51.272 (your post says .272 but the replay page says 5'51.242?)
Dom (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/77) - 5'53.614 (Will upload my replay shortly)
MotoDude (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/66) - 5’58.047 ('Provisional' time, but he's since disappeared so... :erm:)

Congrats NoQuarter. :) Yours was posted at 11:18 GMT, so a bit on the close side! As I posted somewhere else, to see the GMT time just log out and scroll to the bottom of the page where it says 'All times are GMT. The time now is XX.' When logged out all post times are also displayed in GMT, too.

I'll get round two started ASAP, hopefully later today. Once all of the replays are confirmed I'll get the championship table updated.

FFS, just tried to upload my replay and my own script is screwing me about. :doh: :lol:

Sorry but your file does not appear to be a Tourist Trophy replay. If this is a mistake on our part then an email me and I'll try to fix it ASAP.

If anyone else has this problem then sorry, and I'll try and sort it tomorrow.

close race :)

dom - ill upload it for you if youd like ;)

:lol: Cheeky git. ;) I tried to recreate the problem so I could fix it, but for some reason it uploaded perfectly this time. Maybe last night I managed to select the wrong file to upload or something - long day. :lol:

Anyway, I'll update the results post above with a link to my replay.

Any luck with yours yet, NoQuarter? I have fixed the Mac problems. Once I've confirmed it I'll update the championship table thread and I do believe you've earnt a bag of vCash for your efforts. ;)

Uploaded just now. Nope, never fixed the Mac issues, had to upload from work. Sorry about the delay.

Uploaded just now. Nope, never fixed the Mac issues, had to upload from work. Sorry about the delay.

Nice one. :) I did fix the Mac issues though. ;) On the upload page there is a link next to the model list saying 'Model list not loading? (Reloads page - you will lose anything you have already typed in.)'. Click that and you're taken to a totally Mac friendly page. Tried and tested.

Some vCash is in order, too...

Yup, I tried that but when I clicked the upload button, I got a "This file does not appear to be a replay file..."

Somehow, in the process of "sneaker netting" the file from my pc to my Mac, the file becomes corrupt. What I uploaded this morning came from the PS2 via memory stick and directly to my work PC.

As long as I can do this, all should be good ;)

Ah, cheers for the extra info! Well I'm glad one hurdle's crossed (getting the bike type recognised) but it does seem there is a problem with the way the script identifies what is and isn't a replay file. As I said a few posts back, I had the same problem, but wrongly assumed it was a one off/corrupt file.

I'll have a closer look at it, but my guess is that for some reason some replay files or some browsers aren't sending the file type data and without that the upload is currently set to fail (as it could be any file, rather than a replay).

Who'd do this stuff for a living, eh? :think: :doh:

Hi to all!! i'm new in this community, and i'm spanish. I can participate in the championship? my best lap is 1:08.755, I believe that I can improve.

Cheers!!!!!

Year old thread.

Cal and Diatribe both a year older today. What're the odds?

Uncreated

yup, im a grand old 26. and you know what my wife tells me this morning..."good morning, 4 years til you're 30, feeling old yet?" and then came the happy birthday. i could have slapped her right there, lol.