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es nes
03-06-2006, 07:36 PM
http://xs101.xs.to/xs101/06226/championship-laguna.gif (http://xs.to)

How to take part:
Go to TT World Series in Tourist Trophy mode and complete as many race attempts as youd like. Then save the replay onto a USB stick from the replay theater area and upload it to TT Replays (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/). The fastest total time wins.

Bikes you can use:
Any of the race modified 1000cc bikes apart from the Suzuka 8H bikes.

Deadline:
The chequered flag is out in a little over weeks time (Friday the 9th of June). Any entries submitted after midnight GMT will not count. To view the time in GMT logout and scroll to the bottom of the forum.

TT Replays Tag:
All replays for this round should have the tag 'championship-laguna'. You will be able to enter this when you upload your replay to the site.

Important Links:
Replays submitted so far (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/bytag.php/championship-laguna) | Main Championship Rules & Info thread (http://www.motogpboards.com/showthread.php?t=326)

Good luck. :)

es nes
03-06-2006, 07:41 PM
a: sorry the image isnt as good as dom previous images and that the bike is a cbr600rr rm instead of the cbr1000rr rm.

b: since the race just now got posted, the race has been extended to friday the 9th.

c: on hard tyres, i managed a 1.30.8 with the 999r rm. youll probably be able to get away with medium tyres though since tyre wear wasnt noticeable until lap 6 or 7.

leaderboard:
callaghan 10.23.023 - 1.27.811
es nes 10.29.330 - 1.28.xxx
Big_Ham 10'58.871 1"30.381

Dom
03-06-2006, 10:00 PM
Nicely done, es. :D Cheers very much for helping out with this, the friday finish sounds good to me.

I'll just be pleased if I can get within a second of you lot. :lol:

es nes
04-06-2006, 02:44 PM
:)

oh, and incase anyone has any funny ideas, you must start from 4th place :P

callaghan
04-06-2006, 03:41 PM
damn...;)

es nes
04-06-2006, 06:14 PM
rider: es nes
motorcycle: duacti 999r rm
total time: 10'38.363
fastest lap: 1.29.888

:)

es nes
04-06-2006, 06:28 PM
my replay :)

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/ducati/999rfilaracingmodify/364623/REPLAY.DAT

callaghan
04-06-2006, 08:04 PM
rider: callaghan
motorcycle: suzuki 1000 rm
total time: 10.23.x
fastest lap: 1.27.811

threw a quick one together, last lap you can see the bike getting really loose, tires are just about shot. need to work on the suspension set-up. will upload replay shortly.

edit, lap 6, turn 5 i think, i may have grazed the grass, you guys call it, if you want i can discount this one.

es nes
04-06-2006, 08:09 PM
i personally dont mind as long as theres nothing major :)

callaghan
04-06-2006, 08:14 PM
ok, replay uploaded, here is the link
laguna replay (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/94)

es nes
04-06-2006, 08:48 PM
callaghan - would it be too much to ask if you uploaded a ghost (on medium tyres) that i could chase for a little while? :)

es nes
04-06-2006, 09:55 PM
im down to a 10.29.x almost exactly 10 seconds faster. heh. fastest lap down to a 1.28. youd think the ducati with all of its torque would be fastest here, but, the brakes require me to start slowing down sooner than the other bikes.

[edit -
a: please see post 2 for leaderboard.

b: ill upload my better replay latter. i bumped an ai exiting turn 4 lap 1 on exit because the ai didnt accelerate out as hard as i thought it would and there seemed to be a bit more room on the outside of it than i thought. oops. ]

callaghan
04-06-2006, 10:05 PM
callaghan - would it be too much to ask if you uploaded a ghost (on medium tyres) that i could chase for a little while? :)

not at all. ill do a fast lap, do you mind if it is on the suzuki? i can upload one quick on the suzuki, but i could other bikes later tonight.

gimmie about a half hour or so...

callaghan
04-06-2006, 10:35 PM
ok, replay uploaded.

1.27.5x (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/97)

es nes
04-06-2006, 10:35 PM
thanks :)

Big_Ham
05-06-2006, 09:03 AM
Fastest Lap: 1"30.381 on lap 5/7

Total Time: 10"58.871

Bike: Yamaha R1 RM

Medium Tyres, the rear was shagged by the end, sliding everywhere, but i tend to slide the rear coming in and spin it on the way out so it may just be my style.

callaghan
05-06-2006, 12:43 PM
Medium Tyres, the rear was shagged by the end, sliding everywhere, but i tend to slide the rear coming in and spin it on the way out so it may just be my style.

may be your style, may be the set-up. i ride the rear pretty hard too, but with a good set-up, you can get a lot of traction on the exit.8O

callaghan
05-06-2006, 12:48 PM
i noticed that my tires were shot too, infact my last lap was about 3 seconds slower than my fastest.

es nes
05-06-2006, 11:45 PM
leaderboard updated - big_ham: please dont forget to upload your replay :)

callaghan
05-06-2006, 11:51 PM
nes: is that replay helping any?

es nes
06-06-2006, 12:22 AM
i wont have a chance to play until tomorow, but, im sure it will. braking into t2 and the corkscrew is whats slowing me down that much i can tell just from watching the replays :s

Big_Ham
06-06-2006, 08:33 AM
ill have to upload another replay, my pen drive is being weird, i'll update the time accordingly.

Dom
09-06-2006, 02:45 PM
I don't think I'm going to be able to sort an entry for this one. Had a few minutes spare yesterday to see if I could get anywhere and failed miserably, and today we are having yet another gorgeous summer day and there are some nice twisty roads waiting for me once I've finished work. TT's a great game, but the real thing wins hands down. ;)

callaghan
09-06-2006, 10:53 PM
i hear that man. i just sold my bike, and i am really missing it. even if it is a piece of shyte.

es nes
10-06-2006, 08:10 PM
my replay has been uploaded if anyone wants to check it out: click me :) (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/ducati/999rfilaracingmodify/52176/REPLAY.DAT)

big_ham: have you had a chance to upload you replay yet? please get it up before wensday the 14 :)

Big_Ham
11-06-2006, 06:12 PM
well i've lost said replay now, sorry.......... been out riding the real roads too much to care frankly. Sunshine Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dom
11-06-2006, 10:13 PM
(Totally off topic post, sorry all)

well i've lost said replay now, sorry.......... been out riding the real roads too much to care frankly. Sunshine Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!

You've got that right. :mrgreen: Had a reaaally good blast this afternoon on some great roads. There's way too much traffic down here but most of it can be dealt with quickly and with the minimum of fuss. ;)

(To all non-brits: we are currently experiencing the 2 week period of the year known to most as 'summer'. It doesn't happen often and it's all very exciting :lol:)

Sorry to hear you're bikeless atm callaghan, got anything else in the pipeline?

callaghan
11-06-2006, 10:33 PM
i am currently looking at a few bikes, namely 2000-2002 sv650's and the new daytona 675. i was looking at a yamaha fz1 (i think you guys call it a fazer), but after riding it, i was a little dissapointed. for such looks, it just doesnt have the package to back it up. im hoping the 675 triumph isnt the same way.

with how well the F1 did, im really tempted to pick up an F3 or F4i.


hey dom, you have an sv, right? how do you like it?

es nes
12-06-2006, 12:41 AM
dom - move to texas ... we dont know the meaning of winter! most texans feel like their flesh will freeze off at 50f.

Dom
12-06-2006, 08:43 AM
i am currently looking at a few bikes, namely 2000-2002 sv650's and the new daytona 675. i was looking at a yamaha fz1 (i think you guys call it a fazer), but after riding it, i was a little dissapointed. for such looks, it just doesnt have the package to back it up. im hoping the 675 triumph isnt the same way.

with how well the F1 did, im really tempted to pick up an F3 or F4i.


hey dom, you have an sv, right? how do you like it?
Yep I've got a 'curvy' SV650s and on the whole I like it. Compared to a fazer/fz1 it would be a bit lacking power-wise with only 70 odd bhp, though.

Good bits

If you like twins that can either be a great thing or a disaster. Mine does sound pretty good with the full micron system it has.

It's a pretty flexible bike, so you could use it for long distance stuff as well as going for a blast. That said, the 'S' bike is pretty hard on the wrists, although you do get used to it and there are loads of bikes out there that are worse for that.

They're pretty good value for money really and reliability should be pretty good.

Bad bits

It's a suzuki and a budget one at that, so the build quality's not brilliant. If you're using it in all weather then you'll have to keep it coated with wd40 and regularly give it a good clean. Over the winter two of the pistons on my front brake calipers seized, which is apparently a common problem with the SV, although hardly a disaster.

Back on the budget theme, the suspension is pretty poor for 'sporty' riding as it is very soft. A lot of people opt to put thicker fork oil in, harder springs or even a different (usually GSX-R) frontend. A mate of mine had an '02 bike and those have adjustable pre-load, whereas all of the earlier models (including mine) have no scope for adjustment at all. Personally I can live with it as it is, you just have to make the bike's settled before going into corners, maybe a little more than with other bikes.

Not sure what else there is to say about it really. Feel free to start a topic in the lounge if you've got any more questions... I'm starting to feel a little guilty about just how off topic this is all going. :shifty:

dom - move to texas ... we dont know the meaning of winter! most texans feel like their flesh will freeze off at 50f.

Hehe, it certainly comes to mind when we're in the middle of another dark, grey English winter. In the (brief) summer the UK can be a pretty cool place to be though. :)

Big_Ham
12-06-2006, 10:14 AM
It's still called the FZ1 in the UK, or FZ1 Fazer, or simply Fazer.... The 675 is amazing from what i have heard....

I nearly ended up in a wood yesterday, went barrelling into a corner nd was stamping on the back brake to get it stopped. The back then locked up and slid. So i let off, got a big bobble as the tyre gripped and made it round getting attacked by some trees which were over hanging lol. You live you learn, but i'll go and do it all again next weekend!!

Dom
12-06-2006, 11:01 AM
It's still called the FZ1 in the UK, or FZ1 Fazer, or simply Fazer.... The 675 is amazing from what i have heard....

I nearly ended up in a wood yesterday, went barrelling into a corner nd was stamping on the back brake to get it stopped. The back then locked up and slid. So i let off, got a big bobble as the tyre gripped and made it round getting attacked by some trees which were over hanging lol. You live you learn, but i'll go and do it all again next weekend!!
Yeesh, rear brake? You're not Nicky Hayden! ;) My totally non-expert view would to to use the front brake for as long as you can get away with (unless you realise you've overcooked it mid-turn) and to just look through the corner. I mean I've got no idea how fast you would've been going but I wouldn't be surprised if it the bike would've been fine at that speed and it's just your own limits that were being exceeded... if that makes any sense.

Not trying to be patronising (hell I haven't got the right to be, I came off last year doing just that :lol:) but it is instinct to go 'oh shit!' and brake if you feel like you're going too quick for a corner. Unless you already had your knee scraping along the ground and your chicken strips are a thing of the past then there probably was enough grip to make it round.

Just concentrate on looking where you want to go and the bike will go there. Panic and look at the trees you're worried about flying into head first and you will fly into the trees head first. Look through the corner to the piece of tarmac you want to be on and the bike will get there.

The back brake stuff is personal preference to an extent though I admit. If I'm going through some twisties I don't use it at all.

(Oh and yep, the 675 is meant to be the dog's danglies... although that riding position looks like an absolute killer to me. Probably amazing fun if you're just going out for a few hours to blow out the cobwebs though.)

callaghan
12-06-2006, 02:25 PM
http://www.motogpboards.com/showthread.php?t=397

here is what i started a few weeks ago in the lounge. but no one barely even looked at it, lol.

sorry about getting off topic. my mind wanders a lot...

callaghan
12-06-2006, 02:30 PM
It's still called the FZ1 in the UK, or FZ1 Fazer, or simply Fazer.... The 675 is amazing from what i have heard....

I nearly ended up in a wood yesterday, went barrelling into a corner nd was stamping on the back brake to get it stopped. The back then locked up and slid. So i let off, got a big bobble as the tyre gripped and made it round getting attacked by some trees which were over hanging lol. You live you learn, but i'll go and do it all again next weekend!!

yeah, the bike in my avatar was the one i just sold, and the back brake worked, but it would not release, so i just didnt use it at all. i wont preach about how people ride, cuz everyone has their own style, but pure physics dictates that when braking hard on a sportbike, the rear brake is basically useless (unless your like the aforementined hayden...)

Dom
12-06-2006, 03:10 PM
:doh: Didn't spot that thread! No idea how I missed it. Anyway, on the off chance that we haven't totally derailed this thread, let's put any future bikey posts in that topic.

Big_Ham
12-06-2006, 06:37 PM
ok, and yes it was mid corner, and yes it probably would have made it round, but a tightening corner with cars in front of you tend to stimulate the o shit gene a bit.

Back on topic, do we really have to upload replays it's a complete pain in the arse for me, i can't get hold of the drivers for my pen drive so they won't work on my computer so i have to kep using my m8's computer. I have Windows 98, he has XP.

es nes
13-06-2006, 12:22 AM
yeah, im told you guys have road courses that are within hours driving/riding range. the only track near me is some silly oval :(

btw - sorry ive not got the next race up, i just got off work. 7.30a-6.45p ... yay!

callaghan
13-06-2006, 12:29 AM
nes: no biggie, i dont think anyone is gonna hold it against you if you dont get it up with in the minute...;) :) everyone has stuff they have to do.

Dom
13-06-2006, 08:32 AM
No worries at all es, hell I still haven't updated the championship listings thread. :lol: :shifty:

On the subject of decent tracks - yep, the UK's pretty good for that. :D I've got Thruxton, Brands Hatch and Silverstone all within probably 2.5 - 3 hours (not been to Silverstone yet so that's a guess), so can't complain. Once I have a bit of cash together I'm hoping to do a few trackdays, although I don't much fancy my chances of managing it this summer.

Big_Ham
13-06-2006, 09:10 AM
I've got Brands, Silverstone, Snetterton all near me, not too sure where Thurxton is though.

Just did another race on the GSXR100 RM

Total Time: 10"50.467

Fastest Lap 1"29.741 on lap 2/7

es nes
13-06-2006, 07:54 PM
sorry, ham, times were due by last friday.

Big_Ham
13-06-2006, 08:36 PM
curses o well, do they HAVE to be backed up by a replay though??

callaghan
13-06-2006, 10:46 PM
im not the one that ultimately decides that, but i would think that yes, you would have to have a replay to back up your time. check the first post in this thread...

Big_Ham
14-06-2006, 07:43 AM
ok

Dom
14-06-2006, 08:37 AM
Fortunately the forum software lets me view deleted posts, and frankly I think that the idea es deleted was a pretty good one. :lol: (Sorry!)

Would people be happy with replays only being a requirement for the top 3 finishers? Hell, I'm supposed to be running the championship and still haven't uploaded my round two replay if I remember right. :doh:

For future reference - if anyone thinks that rules X or Y don't make too much sense or could be improved, please say! I've got a pretty thick skin, I can take it. ;)

Edit: To clarify - times still must always be posted before a round finishes, I think that's only fair.

callaghan
14-06-2006, 12:06 PM
that would be fine with me. as a side note, the ttbikesim page says the top ten need a replay. plus, if things get out of hand, you could always make an amendment.

Dom
14-06-2006, 02:04 PM
Rules thread updated, cheers for pointing that out.

Dom
14-06-2006, 02:10 PM
leaderboard:
callaghan 10.23.023 - 1.27.811
es nes 10.29.330 - 1.28.xxx
Big_Ham 10'58.871 1"30.381
Just updating the championship results thread - are those the final times/positions?

es nes
14-06-2006, 02:29 PM
ive already okayed callaghan replay, you or someone else needs to check my replay and big_ham doesnt have a replay. but, (no offence bh) even his new time was a bit behind so i seriously doubt he cheated so ... i dont mind that, but, thats your call.

short answer, yes :P

Big_Ham
15-06-2006, 09:26 AM
lol well i guess it hard to tell, but i am pretty honest, why would i le to beat a bunch off people i have never met............... you all seem alright anyway.

PS i also know i suck lol

Dom
15-06-2006, 11:14 AM
Sounds good to me fellas.

(I'm pretty much laid back to the point of being horizontal on the subject of 'cheating' - I'm sure we've all got better things to do than submit fake laptimes for what is essentially just a bit of fun in the first place :))

And if it was me that was going to cheat, I certainly wouldn't submit a laptime that put in me last place. :D ;) :shifty:

callaghan
15-06-2006, 06:12 PM
(I'm pretty much laid back to the point of being horizontal on the subject of 'cheating' - I'm sure we've all got better things to do than submit fake laptimes for what is essentially just a bit of fun in the first place :))

i'll have to buy you a helmet puck for christmas...;)