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es nes
09-06-2006, 01:37 AM
the 8 hour bikes are very deceptive. i managed a 7.08 with the ysp & presto r1 and then was 3 seconds, nailed the left on the back straight at 189mph only to have the rear end break lose and drag me into the barrier going into the final series of corners. i tryed lowering the rear spring rate and preload and nothing on the bike helped so i guess i need to move my rider back in the seat.

the ysp & presto seems to promise the world when it comes to cornering with an engine that just pulls harder and harder as the revs climb until the rev limiter. the brakes are a bit lacking and the front end doesnt always cooperate. that floaty feeling is deciving.

the yoshi gsxr is similiar. it doesnt feel like it floating which is good and the brakes are slightly better, but, the engine is soooo smooth.

no opinion on the trick star atm.

the moriwaki cbr1000rr and the cbr1000rrw just get it done, i dont know how to put it. bow to the might of hrc?

callaghan
13-06-2006, 11:05 PM
nes: with the r1, try bumping the front spring rate to about an 8 or even a 9. the rear i like at about 7 or 8.

i had the same intial thought. i played with the settings ans found this to work ok. will need some tayloring to suit your style, but if you like, here is my steup

spring rate, f-8, r-7
preload, f-3, r-8
rebound, f-8, r-8
compression (bound), f-4, (rear at 3 for a loose turn in, 4 for a little more stability.)

es nes
25-06-2006, 08:16 PM
the r1 feels a lot better, but, reacts even worse to big bumps/jumps. i know i could do a sub 7 minute with that set up but each jump is different and im randomly low siding and just getting frustraited.

im easyly getting 1'18 first sector marks but just getting there is a chore.

ive completed one lap at a 7'10 with two crashes, the first one costing 5-6 seconds, but, ive yet to make it to the other crash site.

es nes
25-06-2006, 09:00 PM
soooo close. had a 6'19 on the back straight sector mark and made it clean through the left on the back straight at 179+ only to have it all ruined because the rear wheel had plans of its own. flicked into the first left and couldnt get back online and got dragged through the grass on the right, accross the track and into the barrier accross from pit enterance.

:evil: :wall: :evil:

callaghan
25-06-2006, 09:31 PM
for the nurburgring you will need a completely different setup! you need to have the suspensin soft, like around a 2 or 3 spring rate in the front, and about the same in the rear. preload gets bumped up pretty high, and the rebound around 6, compression around 5. again, adjust to suit your style. the above posted setup is for tracks like suzuka, as it is very agressive, and as such works well at less bumpy tracks. i think it works particularly well at motegi. also, you might want to try putting a soft tyre on the front and a medium on the rear.

es nes
27-06-2006, 02:47 AM
i tryed going soft before, but, for example, the cbr1000rrw made me feel like i was along for the ride and had very little controll over where the bike went.

The Uncreated
04-07-2006, 04:19 PM
the ysp & presto seems to promise the world when it comes to cornering with an engine that just pulls harder and harder as the revs climb until the rev limiter.


I recently made the switch from the Yosh GSX-R1000 to the Presto myself. It was like night and day. The R1 pulls hard as hell and is crazy stable compared to the Gixxer, which often wishes it had wings. I tore up my best GSX-R1000 effort on Nurburgring by a whole three seconds using the R1. I currently stand at 6'52.379 (pro/manual trans/medium front, soft rear), second only to Stormryder's pro mode run of 6'52.359. Whopping 0.015 second difference.

Uncreated