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es nes
01-07-2006, 09:49 PM
at first i was hating this track, but, the more laps i do the more fun it is :D specically after you get done climbing the hill and get the speed up at the start/finish line and get over the 100 mark.

oh, yeah, 1'41.370 with the cbr600rr rm :D

es nes
01-07-2006, 10:04 PM
down to a 1'39.410 with the same bike :)

750F-RM
02-07-2006, 04:41 PM
i've been hiding from the sun today, looking on here for things to try on tt :)

i've done amalfi and seattle, so i'd better give this one a go too

a 600RM bike it is then :D

i'll edit a time in later...

best i can do for now is 1:41.478 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/124) on the GSXR600RM

that's a good lap you have there, es nes :)

es nes
02-07-2006, 05:38 PM
a r6 or zx6r should be able to match/beat my cbr times since ive found those two to be better handling and more powerfull than the honda.

es nes
02-07-2006, 08:42 PM
:)

ill upload my honda replay when i get the chance if youd like.

750F-RM
02-07-2006, 08:47 PM
if you're pal/europe, that'd be great tnx :)

es nes
02-07-2006, 08:57 PM
doh! sorry, ntsc na :(

heres the link (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/125) for anyone else interested though.

Iceman23
11-07-2006, 05:40 AM
Yamaha YZF-R6 RM '05

1'37.615/Pro Mode/NTSC/Tourist Trophy Mode

I'll get the replay if anyone desires to watch it :rockon:

es nes
11-07-2006, 12:24 PM
sure :)

Iceman23
11-07-2006, 09:16 PM
Here you go.

CELTIC
11-07-2006, 10:50 PM
One For 750F-RM As PAL REPLAY

1:38:219 Yamaha TZ250 03 - Semi Pro - Failure Off

750F-RM
12-07-2006, 05:17 AM
cheers, i'll have a look when i get in from work :) check your pm's, ive replied to
your query about downloading replays, i hope it helps you :D

CELTIC
14-07-2006, 04:01 PM
Thats one hell of a time iceman23, you must have the gears spot on for that time :)

Any one found the annoying bump at the start of the breaking zone at the end of the downhill section just before you go under the banner :(
As it's wrecked loads of my laps

Dom
14-07-2006, 04:34 PM
Celtic & Iceman, could you please upload any replays to the site (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/) rather than the forums? Just makes it easier for other people to browse and download replays and it also means people can download the .DAT directly without having to do any unzipping etc. :)

es nes
09-09-2006, 01:42 AM
Honda CBR954 Fireblade - 1'42.596

spinning the rear tyre up in the long right that leads under the first bridge is t3h fun. gets really nerv racking though when you miss your turn in point slightly and slide onto the sidewalk with the back tyre still spinning :eek: ive done that a fews times and managed to stay off the wall. but, its easy to spin there.

The Uncreated
09-09-2006, 04:44 AM
I was thinking of making this track my next project once I squeeze the last few milliseconds out of Nurburgring. I'm kinda digging the idea of brick walls two feet from my bike while I fly at umpteen hundred miles per hour.

Uncreated

The Uncreated
09-09-2006, 10:31 PM
1'36.029 after a couple hours' effort.

CBR1000RR RM/Pro/Manual/Soft-Soft/FC off

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/211

Oh the joy of learning a new track. Painful initially, but I think I've found my groove.

Uncreated

EDIT: Link above is of my faster 1'35.110 lap. I only maintain one replay per track in the replay database.

es nes
10-09-2006, 12:16 AM
tbh, ive never tryed this track with any of the litre rm bikes besides the speed tripple rm and brutale rm.

The Uncreated
10-09-2006, 02:07 AM
Down to 1'35.110.

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/211

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-Decado-
10-09-2006, 02:23 AM
1'39.896 on a Kawasaki ZX-10R (Street). Performance exhaust and sport's tires. I'm starting to enjoy the street counter-part's better.:lol:

Would of had 1'38.5xx if I hadnt of dumped it in that tight chiacane after the banner and overhang.

es nes
10-09-2006, 02:55 PM
1'35.370 - i keep feel like im losing time on the final uphill that leads to the start/finish stripe :?

TU & Iceman - nice replays, what are your brake settings iceman? im curious how your only using the front most of the time.

The Uncreated
10-09-2006, 03:01 PM
TU & Iceman - nice replays, what are your brake settings iceman?


Thanks.

Personally, my brake settings are 8 front and 6 rear, real hard because my riding style has me flying into bends real hot. You'll notice from my replay that I feather my front brake a lot. I changed nothing from my Nurburgring setup except my final gear, which I set to about 150MPH. Highest speed I managed was about 147MPH on the downhill straight leading to the final hairpin.

Is your replay up? I wouldn't mind seeing it.

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es nes
10-09-2006, 03:19 PM
will be shortly.

and, yup, im losing time going up the final hill/series of corners. coming on to the back straight i gain a 2-3 bike lenghten advantage only to have you beat me to the line :| before that we were pretty even up execpt through the first chicane where i scrube off too much speed to get a good drive out.

es nes
10-09-2006, 03:31 PM
replay (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/212)

[edit - for sh!ts and giggles i took the 7 cbr-rrw for a spin: 1'33.763 :lol: ]

The Uncreated
11-09-2006, 10:16 AM
[edit - for sh!ts and giggles i took the 7 cbr-rrw for a spin: 1'33.763 :lol: ]

You just had to pull out that bike, eh? :)

It'll be real tough trying to push the CBR around this track any harder -- 1'34.021. If I haven't about hit the limit for this bike on this track, I feel I'm pretty close. I rode the lap aggressive as hell, so hard in fact that I lost sight of your ghost by the first chicane! LOL!

I'll keep at it with the CBR. When I'm confident I can't go any faster, then I'll give the 7 Honda a shot.

As for your replay, the only thing I could point out is to keep your revs up as high as possible at all times, especially when downshifting. Ride out the redline for a second or two when upshifting so your following gears get a good jump in acceleration. Still though, the Duck ain't no slouch in the power department; bags of torque. There were a few places where your revs fell quite low for the gear you were in, so you lost a lot of drive.

Very fast replay though. You took those curves after the brick straight like a maniac. One thing I picked up from it is that it's never necessary to downshift to first gear even for the tightest hairpins. I never used first gear once in my 1'34 and still maintained good drive.

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The Uncreated
12-09-2006, 02:51 AM
[edit - for sh!ts and giggles i took the 7 cbr-rrw for a spin: 1'33.763 :lol: ]

For shits and giggles, I left mine parked. :)

1'33.120 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/218)

Uncreated

es nes
12-09-2006, 03:20 AM
the cbr-rrw is just a quick hit of speed for us non-die hard hotlappers ;)

The Uncreated
12-09-2006, 10:27 AM
the cbr-rrw is just a quick hit of speed for us non-die hard hotlappers ;)

You a non-die hard hotlapper? Who you foolin'? :)

The 7H is a great bike no doubt; I just wish it didn't behave like mush when I toss it around in the twisties. Seems no matter how hard I set the suspension, it still feels like cotton, runs wide and dumps a lot. Blazing? Hells yeah. Not terrifically stable however. The 1000RR RM feels like an extra appendage; it obliges my will without complaint and I could punish it in a most unforgiving manner and it'll remain agreeable. Like an unrepentant masochist, I beat it down and it begs for more. My little cybernetic implant, this baby.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/icephreak/th_Uncreated.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/icephreak/Uncreated.png)

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es nes
12-09-2006, 07:52 PM
yeah, hotlapping is fun but, i dont have the patence to stay at the same track with the same bike for hours on end. i usually end up hitting a decent peak and moving on to another bike before getting frustraited.

ill be back with the big duke another time for sure though, but, with citta being in a couple of rounds ill be playing with the speed tripple rm and brutale rm.

about the revs, i didnt see the need to keep the revs near peak with the 999cc vtwin that puts out just under 109ft-lbs.

The Uncreated
12-09-2006, 09:49 PM
about the revs, i didnt see the need to keep the revs near peak with the 999cc vtwin that puts out just under 109ft-lbs.

Yeah, but imagine how much more pull you could squeeze out of that monster if you did. Short-shifting is the enemy, especially when going uphill.

1'32.689

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The Uncreated
13-09-2006, 05:14 PM
1'32.205.

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The Uncreated
14-09-2006, 11:24 AM
1'32.065, very rough.

As soon as I break the 1'31 barrier, I'm calling it quits for this track. It's becoming bloody impossible to pass my own ghost.

Uncreated

The Uncreated
16-09-2006, 09:16 PM
As soon as I break the 1'31 barrier, I'm calling it quits for this track.


1'31.596.

Pant, pant.

I'm taking an extended break from this track; my arm needs amputating.

Uncreated

es nes
16-09-2006, 09:23 PM
replay?

The Uncreated
16-09-2006, 09:42 PM
replay?

Coming up.

Replay (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/219)

Uncreated

CELTIC
21-09-2006, 11:48 PM
Took the Duke out as were Doing The TTWS here this week hit a 1:33:442 :D

More to Come me thinks :lol:

es nes
24-12-2006, 05:15 AM
i decided to come back here for a couple runs. tryed the ysp & presto and it was faster than what i could up with atm. the cbr1000rr seems to be well balaned here though id like it to have stronger brakes.

1'39.070 CBR1000RR

The Uncreated
24-12-2006, 08:39 AM
1'39.070 CBR1000RR

Street, I presume?

Uncreated

es nes
24-12-2006, 01:48 PM
yeah, i could probably get it down to a 1'37 with some time and effort (that was from 6-7 laps) but, she had some weird brakes. shed practically stop on a dime after the one long, downhill straight, yet, when going through some of the tight spots id have to strat braking a lot earlier than i should have. the rear locked up instintly at the slow chicane after the red bricks.

tbh, i think the GSX-R750 wold be the fastest road bike here specially if you consider if you fall out of the power band on a litre bike (anything below 60mph in first gear) you might as well get off and push. but, the gsxr750 just gets moving. it has as much hp as the fireblade and weighs less than the other litre bikes.

sonic_blue
07-02-2007, 09:10 PM
1'30.931 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/428) on the duke :)

The Uncreated
12-02-2007, 07:51 AM
1'30.931 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/428) on the duke :)

How did I miss the above?

Anyhow, 1'31.174 and there's more in it.

Uncreated

sonic_blue
15-02-2007, 07:05 PM
Oh, it seems that you owe me $250 via paypal! (http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=touristtrophy&view=by_date_ascending&message.id=5903#M5903) :lol: :lol:

And another $250 for the 'ring! :lol:

The Uncreated
15-02-2007, 08:09 PM
Oh, it seems that you owe me..

I'll owe you when you could hold the fastest time on each of those tracks for at least six months. :)

I set my Nurb record last August. Quite a stretch of time since. Been awhile since I set the Citta one too.

Uncreated

sonic_blue
15-02-2007, 09:42 PM
ROOFLES :lol:

Are you serious?

The Uncreated
16-02-2007, 12:03 AM
Are you serious?

Heh, no. The community is far more streamlined and dangerous now that the stuntin' kids have moved on from their wheelie and stoppie endeavours, that I wouldn't dare make such claims these days. I did enjoy month after month of relative invincibility on a few tracks, but then the competition started trickling in. Still untouched on two (1000cc Deep Forest -- 1'15.305, 1000cc High-Speed Ring -- 1'05.9xx), but I wouldn't put it past anyone here if they beat 'em. Those two I know for certain can be beaten by at least 500 milliseconds each.

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The Uncreated
04-03-2007, 04:24 AM
1'31.174 and there's more in it.

1'30.582. Still more in it considering I was over 300 milliseconds slower to second checkpoint than in my previous best run.

Uncreated

sonic_blue
04-03-2007, 05:55 AM
Nice. That's going to be hard to beat.

sonic_blue
07-03-2007, 11:12 AM
With CheatBraking® I got a 1'29.779 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/462)

Made it to the first checkpoint in 34.6, but I have been there in 34.0 so I'm thinking a 1'28 will be the next goal

es nes
07-03-2007, 11:41 AM
With CheatBraking®

:lol:!

The Uncreated
07-03-2007, 02:01 PM
With CheatBraking® I got a 1'29.779

Unless I figure out this trailbraking thing, there's absolutely no way I'm going to top that. Until then, nice one. With my usual non-trailing method, I estimate I could squeeze out 400-450 milliseconds more, max. Suppose I'll have to adapt.

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The Uncreated
08-03-2007, 12:18 AM
So as it turns out I was going over some of my early license test replays (saved a load of them for nostalgia), and in my rather sketchy pro mode style, I did briefly experiment with trailbraking to help control all the wheelspin. I mostly used the rear brake. Guess I gave it up at some point.

Anyhow Sonic, mind telling me at what points on Citta you use this thing? Also, care to explain what your controller setup is that allows you pull this off with relative ease?

Tanks.

Uncreated

sonic_blue
08-03-2007, 04:33 AM
Anyhow Sonic, mind telling me at what points on Citta you use this thing? Also, care to explain what your controller setup is that allows you pull this off with relative ease?

Well I used trail braking for all corners except the section between the tunnel entrance and the hairpin. After that it was back to trail braking for the last 3 corners.

Controller setup for trail braking, I'm using X for throttle, square for front brake, R2 for rear brake. For the corners without trail braking I switch to right analogue for throttle/front brake, and R2 is still rear brake.

Now you mention you've used throttle+rear a bit, try throttle+front and you should find it makes the bike point in and take a tighter line. throttle+rear slows the bike down but doesnt turn it in :)

The Uncreated
08-03-2007, 11:28 PM
Well, it didn't take long to get used to trailbraking. It's remotely familar turf as I did experiment with it early in my TT escapades. Fortunately my existing setup allows me to do it fairly easily. Square for accel, X for front brake, O for rear. I'm a fingertip/controller on lap player, so I don't use my thumbs for anything but steering. My index finger covers both accel and front brake, while my middle finger modulates rear brake.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/icephreak/CONTROL.jpg

Pics from left to right -- 1: holding accel (index) while upshifting (middle), 2: holding tuck (middle) with index poised over downshift and thumb steers, 3: braking hard with front (index) and rear (middle), 4: trailbraking with index holding accel and front brake while middle mods rear brake.

New camera. Had to put it to use. :)

Can't say it's made me marginally faster on my High-Speed Ring tests, but it's made me far more consistent, which translates to a better chance of scoring faster runs in less attempts.

Correct my assumptions if necessary, but I don't see this being useful on anything but gradual sweepers. For instance, I tried it on the 90-degree turn leading to first checkpoint on High-Speed ring, and I ate curb nearly every time because the bike pushed like mad with the throttle and brakes bottomed out. Then again, I tend to charge hard into turns, so if there's a technique for pulling it on a curve tighter than about 45-degrees short of hammering brakes and throttle a lot earlier, I wouldn't mind hearing about it.

Uncreated

sonic_blue
09-03-2007, 03:41 AM
LOL with pics too :lol: :lol:

Correct my assumptions if necessary, but I don't see this being useful on anything but gradual sweepers.

That is mostly true. If the corner is too tight it's not worth trailbraking, I find. Though I did use nothing but trailbraking around nurburgring :lol:

For instance, I tried it on the 90-degree turn leading to first checkpoint on High-Speed ring, and I ate curb nearly every time because the bike pushed like mad with the throttle and brakes bottomed out. Then again, I tend to charge hard into turns, so if there's a technique for pulling it on a curve tighter than about 45-degrees short of hammering brakes and throttle a lot earlier, I wouldn't mind hearing about it.

For tighter turns like that one I brake in a straight line first to scrub as much speed as possible, and then add the throttle as soon as you lean into the corner and it should keep you in line. If you've scrubbed too much speed you can always release the rear brake during the corner to gain a bit of speed to correct your line, and if necessary release the front too.

But I had major problems keeping the bike down around the banked turns, it kept wanting to stand up, but I found tapping the rear brake quickly kept it down so you will take a tighter line.

sonic_blue
21-03-2007, 08:13 PM
Made it to the first checkpoint in 34.6, but I have been there in 34.0 so I'm thinking a 1'28 will be the next goal

Got to the first checkpoint in 34.0 and finished with a 1'28.992 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/479)

Next goal: 6'29 at the ring

750F-RM
09-04-2007, 01:08 PM
this lap was from round 7 of the ttws, Brutale 910RM - 1:35.728http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBwQfqFxlTc

es nes
17-02-2008, 02:45 AM
i forgot how much fun this track can be ... specially when speeding down the back straight at 150mph+ with a 2nd gear chicane at the end up of the straight with a nasty bump on the left side of the track just before the brake zone. :lol:

1'36.127 ZX-6R RM :)

[edit - CBR600RR 1'35.974. lost about half a second going through the last sector though :(. the last sector is the only place where im not very comfortable going through.

dropped my pb litre rm time down to 1'34.664 with the YZF-R1 RM :)]

mthielen
17-02-2008, 08:31 AM
I really wonder how the TZ250 would do one this track :think:

750F-RM
17-02-2008, 09:35 AM
post the combo in the suggestion thread, and we can find out in week 40 :D

es nes
17-02-2008, 01:05 PM
I really wonder how the TZ250 would do one this track :think:

my guess is some where between litre rm's and 600 rm's like normal ;)

im surprised ive not tryied that combo yet tbh.

mthielen
17-02-2008, 06:31 PM
my guess is some where between litre rm's and 600 rm's like normal ;)

im surprised ive not tryied that combo yet tbh.

we'll see in a week :)

es nes
17-02-2008, 08:34 PM
the TZ250s are awesome because they have liter bike acceleration and handling better than the 600's. they just have a top speed worse than the 600's.

liter = 215+
600 = 200-205 (nordschliefe iirc)
tz250 = 180-190 (nordschliefe iirc)

es nes
17-02-2008, 11:07 PM
Buell Firebolt XB12R RM - 1'35.717

good bike to learn the track on. lots of torque, just becarefull with the brakes.

es nes
23-02-2008, 08:30 PM
and he keeps talking to himself :lol:

1'32.972 YSP & PRESTO YZF-R1
YZF-R6 RM - 1'35.270
GSX-R600 RM - 1'36.037

[edit - master hot lap thread updated to included citta di aira.

1.33.199 Morwaki/Tiger CBR1000RR. i had a :35.571/1.03.203 spilt times only to fail sector three so bad i was behind .44x behind at s/f to a 1'34.xxx iirc and i was 1.5 seconds up at t2 :(]