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es nes
17-07-2006, 11:57 PM
How to take part:
Go to TT World Series in Tourist Trophy mode and complete as many race attempts as youd like. Then save the replay onto a USB stick from the replay theater area and upload it to TT Replays (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/). The fastest total time wins.

Bikes you can use:
Any of the race modified 1000cc bikes apart from the Suzuka 8H bikes.

Deadline:
The chequered flag is out in a little over weeks time (Sunday, july 23rd). Any entries submitted after midnight GMT will not count. To view the time in GMT logout and scroll to the bottom of the forum.

TT Replays Tag:
All replays for this round should have the tag 'championship-motegi'. You will be able to enter this when you upload your replay to the site.

Important Links:
Replays submitted so far (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/bytag.php/championship-motegi) | Main Championship Rules & Info thread (http://www.motogpboards.com/showthread.php?t=326)

Good luck. :)

Leaderboard
callaghan (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/honda/cbr1000rrracingmodify/804071/REPLAY.DAT)9.25.987 (ntsc)
Spire 9'30.035
es nes (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/honda/cbr1000rrracingmodify/336312/REPLAY.DAT) 9'31.694 (ntsc)
750f-rm (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/ducati/999rfilaracingmodify/356853/REPLAY.DAT)9:32.936 (pal)
CELTIC 9:34:068
big_ham 9'49.991

es nes
18-07-2006, 04:32 AM
hm ... i think i dont like this track. the brakes feel weird here ... 1'57.2 best lap so far.

callaghan
18-07-2006, 04:37 AM
dude, im barely able to get to 2 minutes...granted its with the mv agusta...but still. im convinced this bike is shit. i cant make it do anything i want. ill try it with the suzuki...maybe thatll help some.

es nes
18-07-2006, 05:01 AM
im down to a 1'56.6 w/ mediums on the cbr rr rm.

[edit - As the official thread isn't up yet, I thought i'd make this temp one so i didn't forget my time and i have something to work against.

Bike:CBR1000RR RM
Fastest Lap: 1.55.583
Total Time: 9.49.991

im guessing you were using soft tyres? though im probably losing a lot of time into the hard braking corners because i dont much confedence in the brakes here.]

callaghan
18-07-2006, 05:20 AM
haha...i switched to the suzuki, and now i can do consistant 54's. my fastest lap with the zooki is a 1.54.045. see it here. (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/150)

Big_Ham
18-07-2006, 10:40 AM
[ im guessing you were using soft tyres? ]

Nope, mediums......

es nes
18-07-2006, 08:01 PM
i guess i need to work on my braking here. i either slow down way too much or miss the corner completely :(

750F-RM
18-07-2006, 08:54 PM
good evening all :) my 1st entry is 9:47.xxx, with a best lap of 1:56.5xx

used the YZF-R1 on m/m tyres

i'm going to give some of the others a try before i get the Duke out 8O :D

es nes
18-07-2006, 09:07 PM
750 could you post the full time so i can post it in the leaderboard? :)

es nes
18-07-2006, 10:03 PM
dude, im barely able to get to 2 minutes...granted its with the mv agusta...but still. im convinced this bike is shit. i cant make it do anything i want. ill try it with the suzuki...maybe thatll help some.

the best i could do with the mv in practice was a 2'01.3xx ... feels heavy and revs like a turtle :(

what do you think of the rsv?

CELTIC
18-07-2006, 10:52 PM
Are You Lads Holding Back On Me ?

2nd Run on the R1

09:44:665

Are you lads finding that the fastest lap is the last lap
First lap 1:57:xxx
Then 3 x 1:56:xxx
last 1:55:high

So there must be at least 2 seconds on this setting to come

Who's going to be the first to break 09:40:xxx :lol:

If Your Running 1:54:xxx Callaghan Your probably already there ;)

Update 09:44:256 The Kwaka cut across me on turn 4 before the underpass he ATE Dirt ;) I carried on, He wiped out right across my front wheel 8O Check Out The Gallery

es nes
19-07-2006, 12:48 AM
with the gsxr you can really feel the 2-6 less kgs its carrying over the over bikes on the brakes. it seems to spin the rear up more than the other bikes though.

CELTIC
19-07-2006, 12:56 AM
Just a quick question - Does the race have to be totally clean IE no dust kicked up etc, as you can see by my last post i tangled with the kwaka and he went down SEE The Gallery.

I also ran slightly wide and kicked up some dust probably lost a couple of tenth's All part of racing if you ask me :lol:

es nes
19-07-2006, 01:11 AM
i personally dont mind if small amounts of dirt/grass is kicked up since they run out of curb all the time ;)

as for the ai, i dont mind if its something the ai did that was mostly unavoidable.

callaghan
19-07-2006, 02:00 AM
i personally dont mind if small amounts of dirt/grass is kicked up since they run out of curb all the time ;)

as for the ai, i dont mind if its something the ai did that was mostly unavoidable.

x2


and nes, "revs like a turtle..." i laughed my ass off. that is so true, but at the same time, it still moves good...in a straight line.

callaghan
19-07-2006, 02:03 AM
with the gsxr you can really feel the 2-6 less kgs its carrying over the over bikes on the brakes. it seems to spin the rear up more than the other bikes though.

yes you can. and i find that it seems to turn in quicker too. that was part of the reason i had to go with the gixxer at laguna, rather than the r1 i usually use.8O i also think the zooki is more forgiving of abrupt inputs. i can really throw it in, and it just wiggles a little, maybe a short slide, but it still holds true to the line i want.

es nes
19-07-2006, 02:11 AM
and nes, "revs like a turtle..." i laughed my ass off. that is so true, but at the same time, it still moves good...in a straight line.

:lol: i dont mind the slow reving, but, the higher reving bikes seem faster in tt than their slower reving breathen (aprilia rm and f4s rm) but, im not sure if thats really true because the prilia is a a hair under powered (imo) and the f4s rm is over. the prilia really should be faster, but, i was putting to much effort in just to be 2-3 seconds off the ducatis pace :(

yes you can. and i find that it seems to turn in quicker too. that was part of the reason i had to go with the gixxer at laguna, rather than the r1 i usually use. i also think the zooki is more forgiving of abrupt inputs. i can really throw it in, and it just wiggles a little, maybe a short slide, but it still holds true to the line i want.

im not sure, the rear end spins up quite easyly for me (im using default lean body set up which has set postion as +.8) everything else feels good though.

callaghan
19-07-2006, 03:27 AM
i had to upload this replay. (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/155) its not championship worthy as i crashed a time or two. i was feeling out a new set up that allows me to get really aggressive with the steering, and well, just watch the last four turns on lap two...

es nes
19-07-2006, 03:52 AM
dude, id ask for my money back on that front tyre ... theres no way it was on the ground enough to wear that badly :P

callaghan
19-07-2006, 03:58 AM
LMAO...:lol: :lol:

it was a soft. i couldnt really tell that it was going off until the last lap. im watching your replay now.

callaghan
19-07-2006, 04:08 AM
your first lap is cool with me. the bit of grass on the right after going under the bridge i dont think helped in any way, so its fine with me.

750F-RM
19-07-2006, 08:03 PM
used the honda this time, and got a time of 9:39.260

best lap was 1:54.702

more to come from the cbr before duke is unleashed :lol:

-Decado-
19-07-2006, 08:21 PM
I was in 3rd place with a time of 9'47.xxx.... :neutral:

CELTIC
19-07-2006, 10:28 PM
OK we have a race :lol:

09:39:288 Only half a bike length in it i recon 8O

best lap of 1:54:884

Also on the Honda RM

es nes
19-07-2006, 11:28 PM
from now on, please post a full total time unless you want your time x'xx.999 for example ...

CELTIC
20-07-2006, 12:27 AM
OK 750F-RM I'll set the pace on the DUKE

09:39:122 But....... Not Clean have to go to the panel i'm afraid if needed

Get this First lap of 1:55:594...... :twisted:
Then ran wide onto the grass after the 2nd double apex on lap 2 the only indiscretion (Panel) lap time 1:56:948 :cry:
Followed by three mid 55's

So There's A Second And A Half At Least In There Yet :lol:

Bollox I'll Have to beat It Now Went Back Forgot To Save The Replay :eek:

es nes
20-07-2006, 01:30 AM
oi ... i dont like this track. the suzuki is starting to annouy me too. understeers and the rear tyre doesnt like to grip.

[edit - hm ... i seem to need to start turning in earlier than i thought. im going back to the honda. the brakes are strong, but, i can put the power down exiting corners.]

es nes
20-07-2006, 01:52 AM
oh, btw -
9'41.685
1'54.9 fastest lap

[edit - time updated. having troubles with laps 4 and 5]

callaghan
20-07-2006, 11:59 AM
oi ... i dont like this track. the suzuki is starting to annouy me too. understeers and the rear tyre doesnt like to grip.

[edit - hm ... i seem to need to start turning in earlier than i thought. im going back to the honda. the brakes are strong, but, i can put the power down exiting corners.]

now you know why i tried a front soft, and the tyre was in the air most of the time...trying to get the power down.

750F-RM
20-07-2006, 08:27 PM
hi all :) riding the Duke now, i have a time of 9:37.288, best lap 1:54.740

the braking point for the turn at the end of the back straight is the nastiest imo :eek:

CELTIC
20-07-2006, 11:23 PM
Ding - Dong.......... Duke Team Are Go Go Go !!!!!!

09:37:028

First Lap Of 1:55:527
Fastest Lap Of Only 1:55:263 But the Others very Consistant ;)

Don't Know About You 750F-RM but i think there's a low 09:36 here

I find the breaking point for the back straight to be 10 yards before the first marker do all my breaking in a straight line turn in and let it roll

Like This.......

es nes
20-07-2006, 11:56 PM
the braking point for the turn at the end of the back straight is the nastiest imo

specially since its the fastest point of the track going down hill.

callaghan
21-07-2006, 12:09 AM
Don't Know About You 750F-RM but i think there's a low 09:36 here

yeah, ive run a low 35, but not clean yet. ive a 9.37.567 clean, but obvoulsy ill have to do better than that, especially if spire is going to enter.:shifty:

CELTIC
21-07-2006, 12:21 AM
I was wondering where you were Callaghan as you stated - Running consistant 1:54's two day's ago ;)

I'm finding this track you have to be smooth and let it all flow, If you try to attack it tends to bite you :lol:

a Low 1:55 Heh this is starting to hot up :D

What bike are you running Callaghan ?

callaghan
21-07-2006, 12:49 AM
the suzuki

callaghan
21-07-2006, 03:29 AM
rider: callaghan
bike: cbr1000rrrm
total time: 9.25.987
fast lap: 1.51.826

replay (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/157)

Spire
21-07-2006, 03:47 AM
Awesome time Cal :eek: I have a feeling that's gonna be really hard to match. I'll put some more laps in tonight and see if I can give ya some competition.

es nes
21-07-2006, 03:53 AM
haha ... i guess the rear traction coming out of corners with the honda is greater than the brakes of the suzuka? ;)

CELTIC
21-07-2006, 08:59 AM
Fastest Lap Of 1:51:826 :eek:

I've already tried the CBR pushed into the high 1:54's but struggled to get any lower, Just makes me wonder if there's any difference between PAL and NTSC versions of the game ( Not to take anything from you Mind ;) ) but i just can't get my head around a 3 sec deficit.

If the game versions are the same it would prove that there is alot of scope in the settings/rider form than previously thought - which would mean it's going to take alot of time to nail this game down. :?

callaghan
21-07-2006, 12:17 PM
haha ... i guess the rear traction coming out of corners with the honda is greater than the brakes of the suzuka? ;)

lol, true, true. :) you just dont expect there to be that much of a difference...i mean, that is a lot of time, though to be fair, the suzuki did have a lot left in it. probably about a 9.30 would be the fastest it has (for me).

i wonder though, if it was a real race, where all the bikes were pullin around the same times, i might still take the suzuki over the honda, just becase the bike i think has better characteristics. you can really get away with a lot, and the suzuki allows for more leway with the racing lines.

callaghan
21-07-2006, 12:18 PM
I've already tried the CBR pushed into the high 1:54's but struggled to get any lower, Just makes me wonder if there's any difference between PAL and NTSC versions of the game ( Not to take anything from you Mind ;) ) but i just can't get my head around a 3 sec deficit.


ive thought about that too. i wouldnt think there is any difference between them as far as game play is concerned, but then again, you cant watch another regions replays...makes you think...?:eh:

CELTIC
21-07-2006, 01:40 PM
I would,nt think there was any difference either but 11.5 sec over a five lap race is probably the difference between Motogp and 250 class.

It's just myself and 750F-RM seem to be matching each others times on different machinery and are both running the PAL version as you know.

I'm not that new to this type of racing as used to race with racing-line.org about 3 years ago on GT3 and used to race against the grandtourismo.de boys who at that time were very fast and well known on the GTPlanet.net site Used to go under the name of Oracle back then.

Anyway only time will tell Watch Your Mirrors For #10

es nes
22-07-2006, 02:27 AM
callaghan - thanks for the form :)

im not too far behind you duke bros! ;)

callaghan
22-07-2006, 02:42 AM
uhhhh, i dont know what youre talking about:shifty: j/k, any time man!

es nes
22-07-2006, 02:53 AM
:P

9'35.022 ... hrc podum! :D

1'57
1'54
1'54
1'54
1'54

ive done a 1'53.9 though. just need to tweak my set up a bit now :)

CELTIC
22-07-2006, 09:08 AM
OK as i thought this games is as much about Rider Form as it is settings, so double the parameters of GT4 etc :D

Just been over to GTPlanet as entered Icemans TTWRS Got into DIV 2, Your'e Just above me es nes so see you there ;)

I noticed on the TTWRS that Div 1 is all NTSC except for 750F-RM Way to go Man :D hold the fort for the next couple of weeks ;)

I am coming to the conclusion that it's due to the fact that the NTSC version was released a couple of weeks earlier.

So Watch out NTSC boys the PAL lads are in Town 8O

es nes
22-07-2006, 02:27 PM
celtic - how many of the div 1'ers do you think use pro mode though? :P

750F-RM
22-07-2006, 03:26 PM
celtic - how many of the div 1'ers do you think use pro mode though? :P
oh dear, you're not one of those pro mode elitists are you? :roll:

a simple equation for you...

std mode'll get you faster laps + std mode is allowed (for now anyways) at the gtp tt wrs = i can't
think of a reason not to use std mode there

i use pro mode as required here, and would have no problem if ice wanted to go all pro at gtp tt

so put your tongue in ;)

CELTIC
22-07-2006, 03:43 PM
My Qualifier was set in pro mode, i set it about two weeks ago just did'nt get around to posting it until yesterday, With what i know now from racing here i could probably cut it by a second or so.

Looks as if Callaghans Form works es nes ;)

es nes
22-07-2006, 06:52 PM
750F-RM - elitist, no? but i do have more respect for pro mode times because semi does have more grip, but a fast lap time is a fast lap time. im also more interested in pro times because i use pro mode and i like being able to compair laptimes who have the same base line grip. if that makes me an elitest, well ... sorry :P

CELTIC - yeah, calla's usually does very good set ups/forms :)

750F-RM
22-07-2006, 08:16 PM
750F-RM - elitist, no? but i do have more respect for pro mode times because semi does have more grip, but a fast lap time is a fast lap time. im also more interested in pro times because i use pro mode and i like being able to compair laptimes who have the same base line grip. if that makes me an elitest, well ... sorry :P
no apology needed. you've explained your pov very eloquently, and i have no problem with it, or you :)

anyways, here's my latest (possibly final) time...

1 - 1:54.782
2 - 1:54.213
3 - 1:54.332
4 - 1:54.721
5 - 1:54.888

total - 9:32.936

set using pro mode as required of course :lol:

used the Duke and pushed quite hard. i believe a <30 is possible for me, but it'd be a tall order

fun trying anyway :D

es nes
22-07-2006, 08:33 PM
:)

nice first lap, my best so far as been a mid 55 iirc. but, it appears i just imrpvoed my time just enough for a moment to retain second :D

1'55.794
1'54.309
1'53.525
1'54.033
1'54.033

9'31.694

dont ask me how i did his/hers times on lap 4 and 5 :eek:

callaghan
22-07-2006, 10:28 PM
thats what i call consistant. nicely done.

Big_Ham
23-07-2006, 05:42 PM
Bike:CBR1000RR RM
Fastest Lap: 1.55.583
Total Time: 9.49.991

es nes
23-07-2006, 09:53 PM
current replay links have been added to the leaderboard. would someone please check to make sure i uploaded the correct one? :eek:

CELTIC
23-07-2006, 10:46 PM
My Final Time, Getting the Hang Of this Now.

09:34:068 Fila Ducati

1:55:147
1:54:447
1:55:060
1:54:705
1:54:709

I Dedicate this race to SPIRE - Thanks For The Settings Saved Me Alot Of Time.

Used the Preset Lean Out -3 Seat Pos Form - Looks Awfull On Replay But Works.

Edited with lap times

Spire
23-07-2006, 11:49 PM
Glad I could help Celtic. Nice times. I almost forgot to post up my times for the week.

Here they are:

1) 1'55.031
2) 1'54.014
3) 1'53.492
4) 1'53.460
5) 1'54.038

Total= 9'30.035

I might have had a little left in me but nowhere near Callaghan's insane times this week. Awesome job man :clap:

CELTIC
24-07-2006, 12:22 AM
Well done lads some awsome times :)

Callaghan That's Insane - What you drinking Rocket Fuel


I'm still trying to suss out the form - Shame i can't watch NTSC replays.

Off Topic - does anyone know why i can't get smilies to work as there NOT disabled in the options below, also i cannot select the links and Attachment etc.

es nes
24-07-2006, 01:13 AM
oi! shame its too late for me to protect 2nd :)

nice times everyone, btw :)

callaghan
24-07-2006, 04:35 AM
Well done lads some awsome times :)

Callaghan That's Insane - What you drinking Rocket Fuel

burns on the way down.:lol: thank you for the kind words. i wish it was a little cleaner, as i am a perfectionist, and i wish i could have made the bike a little more predictable.

Off Topic - does anyone know why i can't get smilies to work as there NOT disabled in the options below, also i cannot select the links and Attachment etc.

yes, under your options in the user control panel, scroll sown to the bottom box, and youll see a section like this: "message editor interface"...select "standard" and youll be able to include all the stuff...

everyone did a really great job!

Dom
24-07-2006, 08:21 AM
@ Celtic - You can also just click the http://www.motogpboards.com/images/editor/switchmode.gif button in the editor to switch to the standard text editor.

Or perhaps your browser is disabling some of the javascript, as you say the buttons aren't all working?

So long as 'Disable smilies in text' isn't selected they should always appear after you click submit.

Congrats on another victory callaghan. :)

CELTIC
24-07-2006, 08:25 AM
Cheers Dom and Callaghan sorted now i can smile again :D ;) :P 8O

es nes
25-07-2006, 12:55 AM
the nordschliefe thread will be up after i get done eating diiner :)

callaghan
25-07-2006, 01:07 AM
cool, i can see my ass getting kicked on this one.

question?: can previous times be submitted, or do they have to be done after the thread has been put up?

es nes
25-07-2006, 01:44 AM
id prefer a fresh time, but ...

750F-RM
25-07-2006, 05:33 AM
imho, it should be fresh times only. if not, it'd be like a real life rider relying on previous laptimes in a current wsbk or mgp race :)

callaghan
25-07-2006, 12:01 PM
imho, it should be fresh times only. if not, it'd be like a real life rider relying on previous laptimes in a current wsbk or mgp race :)

thats what i was thinking.

CELTIC
25-07-2006, 01:05 PM
My Best Time So Far Previous To This Is A 07:29:xxx :lol: as did not have GT4 and never seen the course before TT so total laps of around 20 or 30 :(
My aim for the week to get close to 7 mins ;)