tt mode > nordschliefe > practice

How to take part:
Complete as many laps as you like of Nordschliefe in a Tourist Trophy mode practice session. Then save a 'best lap replay' onto a USB stick from the replay theater area and upload it to TT Replays (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/). The fastest time wins. Make sure the time submitted is a best lap replay as that ensures the correct lap is saved with the replay, rather than the complete session.

Bikes you can use:
Any of the race modified 1000cc bikes apart from the Suzuka 8H bikes.

Deadline:
The chequered flag is out in 1 week time (Sunday the 30th of july). Any entries submitted after midnight GMT will not count. To view the time in GMT logout and scroll to the bottom of the forum.

TT Replays Tag:
All replays for this round should have the tag 'championship-nord'. You will be able to enter this when you upload your replay to the site.

Important Links:
Replays submitted so far (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/bytag.php/championship-nord) | Main Championship Rules & Info thread (http://www.motogpboards.com/showthread.php?t=326)

Leaderboard
Spire 6'49.945
-Stormryder- 6'50.095
callaghan 6'57.558
750F-RM 6'58.334
es nes 6'58.875
Big_Ham 7'20.276
CELTIC 7'21.881

dq'ed laptime:
The Uncreated 6'49.307

Cool... I'll see what I can do tommorow. Since tommorow is my last day until I leave for D.C.

i really do suck at the ring, so expect some more shocking times thna usual from me.

I'll be racing you then Big_Ham,

My Best so far before this round started is a 07:29:xxx, Just aiming to get as close to 7 Min as possible, some of these lads i bet have 2 years racing around the ring.

First time around the ring was 3 weeks ago the day i bought TT

ive played it in gt4, but in tt its a little different. the lines are different, and the bumps really throw the bike off a lot.

6'50.095 is the best I can do so far.... I've been trying for 6 damn hours to improve the time and not a single lap has come through. Not ONE....

I wont be able to continue competing after today, so my I may have to stick with 6'50.095

hi all :) my first entry is 7:01.935, using the 999RM as usual for this championship :D

i've not spent a lot of time at nurb in tt, so this is a pb for me 8O

my best ducati time is a 7.06 ... how are you guys going quick with the big duke? it feels fast yet i cant match my yamaha/honda times with the 999r rm :s

well, on the cbr1000, im getting a 6.56.516 and now im able to take the turn after the bridge at over 200 mph! but, im not as nimble through the middle section. i guess its a compromise.

I did 6'50.388 on the CBR1000RR. Didn't save the replay though. Shouldn't be too difficult bettering that.

Uncreated

hhmmmm 7.36.878 with the 999R RM. Had 3 crashes, twice after big bumps. It was my first lap though.

I'll be gone for the rest of the week, have fun guys. ;)

Excellent Time Big_Ham for a first run.

I ran a best last night of 07:38:xxx on the CBR 1000 - 9 sec off my PB though

Still trying to nail down a good setup/rider form but learning all the time
looks like we may have a close battle on our hands :)

i can't do more than 1 lap in a session of the ring or i get really bored, because the laps are soo long... i did a:

Best Lap:7.27.935
Bike: Yamaha R1 RM

Made it so stable in the mid-high speed corners it was like riding a Hayabusa around the slower sections. That's a clean lap by the way.

Very Close, You have it by a couple of bike leangths Big_Ham.
My new PB Of 1:28:6XX :)

I Don't Know About You But I Can't Understand How Their Getting Well Under 7 Mins - Must be my age..... Reaction Times Slowing Down.

I'm The same as You On The Consecutive Laps as my concentration lapses about half way around lap 2 and end up binning it

I Don't Know About You But I Can't Understand How Their Getting Well Under 7 Mins - Must be my age..... Reaction Times Slowing Down.

practice makes perfect.;)

Callaghan I'm That old My DS2 Has'nt Even Got The Rubbers Anymore, Yes My DS2 is even BALD.

But as the photo's show you're getting there :)

i dont use my ds2 because r2 sticks ... im using my ps1 controller :P

Yeah i know what you mean es nes, i've gone through 2 controllers in the past 12 months now on my third as the shoulder buttons keep breaking off inside usually when playing Pro Evo 5 - R2 Usually goes the sprint button. :(

i think i will buy a new controller this weekend. its starting to bug me, every now and then, my finger slips and screws an otherwise great lap...

I've broken both L2 and R2 on one controller, they just stick on. Dam you GT3/4

My new PB Of 1:28:6XX :)



That's bloody fast, i think a 1.28 is leading now ;)

:lol:

i need to do some laps, ive not turned any yet :(

hmm, do you mean 7.28? ive got to do some laps too...

7'00.121 ... lost a few tenths in the last sector that droped me above the 7 minute mark :(

cbr1000rr rm btw.

i think i will buy a new controller this weekend. its starting to bug me, every now and then, my finger slips and screws an otherwise great lap...

Errrr....I've got one of your controllers at my house. :roll:

w00t! 6'58.875 :D :D :D :D

ahh, you can keep that one matt. i actually have another one here, but it doesnt go full throttle when the right analog stick is pushed all the way up.

... but it doesnt go full throttle when the right analog stick is pushed all the way up.


It's all about corner speed my friend. 8O :lol:

Now get off the 'puter and get started on that MotoGP game!!

No Correct time 1:28:xxx Watched Replay on Fast Forward - Timed the Lap Manually :lol:

I'll have to try again tonight, Had to buy Headphones the missus was complaining about the noise keeping her awake :lol: it was the low bass sound on the Ducati RM cuts straight through the house 8O

Now that's what i call surrond sound :lol:

i take my hat off to you all - i'm sooooo shite.

c'mon skinny give us a time no one is judging you (least of all me)

c'mon skinny give us a time no one is judging you (least of all me)

Ditto...8O

im workin on it. ive had to stay late at work this week, and i have not had a lot of time, but ill have some time a little later tonight hopefully, if my 7 month old decideds to sleep...

I've managed a 6'51.797 on the R1. It's an entertaining lap as well :lol:.

I had a few seriously close calls including near lowsides and a huge 4th gear slide exiting metzgesfeld. I'm gonna give it a few more runs but I doubt I'll get much faster :boohoo:

Y'all got your work cut out for you from here on out. I just pulled a 6'49.307 on a CBR100RR.

Yes, pro mode.

Uncreated

wow, great time from both of you! i wont be able to come anywhere close. i got a few laps in last night, about a 6.58.701. i think thats what i got. dont remember...soo tired, kid needs sleep pills...

Y'all got your work cut out for you from here on out. I just pulled a 6'49.307 on a CBR100RR.

Yes, pro mode.

Uncreated

Kick ass, thats well below the 6'50 mark. I didnt think it could be done. You fooled me. Your the only one who's pulled that kind of time under 6'50 in Pro mode by the way. (I'm .096 seconds from doing it, but your way past me)

I'm unfortuneatly out of town, so I'm not able to give my PS2 some playtime... oh well. Anyways, good job man! :rockon:

Anyways, good job man! :rockon:

Thanks. 8O

Some of you may have known this already, but I just found out by accident that there's a fast forward option for replays. Especially handy for Nurb runs. Press/click down on the left analog stick.

Uncreated

See My Previous Post, Not fast enough yet Uncreated - Beat 1:28 :lol:

i Believe it's the R3 Button ;)

The same button that is resonsible for the disappearing / Reappearing Ghost
The ghost goes On and Off with each press, Anyone know how to turn ghost Off completely :?

actually, i believe sony refers to it as a "L3" button.

hi all :) woohoo, i'm in the sub 7 club at last :D my entry for round 10 is 6:58.334

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g120/750F-RM/mgpb10.jpg

Well Done 750F :clap:

was it on the Duke ?

My Final Submitted Time is 7:21:881 :) Getting there slowly

New PB Of 7:19:671 But this one not clean ran wide on 3 corners

I Stand Corrected Callaghan L3 it is :P

i got a 6.57.558 on the r1. i think that is my final entry. plenty of time to be had, if i had the time...:roll: the potential of this bike amazes me.

Uncreated's blistering time inspired me to give "The Green Hell" another go. I revised some settings and just flogged the R1 to no end.

Cracked off a 6'49.945 :)

There's a bunch more left in it (48s probably) but I'm calling this my final entry. I think I aged 2x during that lap :lol:

Btw, awesome times everybody :eek:

Cracked off a 6'49.945 :)


Man, that's awesome.

This sub-6'50 thing is kind of like the four minute mile; everybody thought it was impossible in the beginning, but once one person does it, suddenly people everywhere are able to pull it off.

But I'll tell ya. Had you not come along with your tall-ass gears on the 7 Honda (230 miles per hour), Spire, I wouldn't have thought even 6'50 would be possible.

Good on ya. Now here's hoping Stormryder and the rest put the same hurt to the Ring; we need to crush this bitch of a track once and for all.

Uncreated

and i need to get the leaderboard up :lol:

Man, that's awesome.

This sub-6'50 thing is kind of like the four minute mile; everybody thought it was impossible in the beginning, but once one person does it, suddenly people everywhere are able to pull it off.

But I'll tell ya. Had you not come along with your tall-ass gears on the 7 Honda (230 miles per hour), Spire, I wouldn't have thought even 6'50 would be possible.

Good on ya. Now here's hoping Stormryder and the rest put the same hurt to the Ring; we need to crush this bitch of a track once and for all.

Uncreated

Well... my only excuse is that I'm 600 miles away from my PS2 :cry:

Once I get home, I'll give it a wack.

I agree with what your comparing the sub 6'50 domain with. I remember when I first started to browse around in the main TT forum, people were just beginning to etch the 7 minute mark. One person pulled down to 6'58. Everyone was astonished. Alot more people did it, and so forth. So I kept pushing that limit. I ended up at 6'52 after a while and everyones reaction was of shock.

Alot of people didnt know if I could pull it below 6'52. Soon enough, I did a 6'50 time. Some people were still having the same reactions and what not. Then I pulled my 6'48. That set this small community on fire :D .

And like Uncreated said, more people saw that if one person could do it (me being in that chair), then more would follow (uncreated, kman, spire, and more to follow). I'm currently sitting at 6'47, but I dont want to use an 8H bike anymore. Makes it a little to easy, I want to see if I could do that on a 1000RR RM regardless if it's Pro mode or Semi-Pro.

Thats awsome, thats what... 4 people now under the 6'50 mark? I'm liking this because I was quite lonely for a while sitting at 6'48... Sorry for the little history lesson, I'm a big history buff myself :lol:

leader board up ... im really interested in seeing these 6'50 and 6'49 laptime replays :)

im really interested in seeing these 6'50 and 6'49 laptime replays :)

So long as you're not expecting a geometrically perfect race, mine is up. Grazed some grass, but not nearly enough to say I gained an advantage. If anything I probably lost 150 to 200 milliseconds of drive combined.

Uncreated

just did a 7.20.276 on the R1 again, pipped by Celtic just, how frustrating.......................... I've been trying to get all golds on licenses so haven't been doing many laps(just the super license to go!!!!!)

So long as you're not expecting a geometrically perfect race, mine is up. Grazed some grass, but not nearly enough to say I gained an advantage. If anything I probably lost 150 to 200 milliseconds of drive combined.

as long as you didnt blantaly cut corners, a little grass tosed up here and there it should be fine.

New PB Of 7:19:671 But this one not clean ran wide on 3 corners

how bad did you run wide, celtic? if its just a little grass/dirt at the exit, then, that should be fine. upload a replay and let myself or callaghan decide.

Man, that's awesome.

This sub-6'50 thing is kind of like the four minute mile; everybody thought it was impossible in the beginning, but once one person does it, suddenly people everywhere are able to pull it off.

But I'll tell ya. Had you not come along with your tall-ass gears on the 7 Honda (230 miles per hour), Spire, I wouldn't have thought even 6'50 would be possible.

Good on ya. Now here's hoping Stormryder and the rest put the same hurt to the Ring; we need to crush this bitch of a track once and for all.

Uncreated

that would be roger bannister that broke the 4 minute mile. i wonder if they had steriods back then....

damn spire...i just dont have the patience to do lap after lap after lap. http://www.wera.com/graphics/smilies/beerchug.gif great time man.

The Uncreated - the 6'49 has been deemed too dirty by 2 out of 3 judges. kicking up some dirt up here and there is fine, but there are some spots where you ran too far off course. sorry.

My 7:21:xxx Stands no need to submit the 7:19 as not up to race post standard as on the worst case i ran a yard wide and travelled 20 yards before the bike recovered enough to pull it back on track, So congratulations go to Big_Ham well done mate you pipped me ;)

It will have to rest for another Day :D ................

Mind you i don't forget these things :lol:

Leaderboard
Spire 6'49.945
-Stormryder- 6'50.095
callaghan 6'57.558
750F-RM 6'58.334
es nes 6'58.875
Big_Ham 7'20.276
CELTIC 7'21.881


wow! everone with in 32 seconds, and the top five by less than 10. great job to everyone!

edit: my replay (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/168)

Bollox :lol:

I MUST TRY HARDER....... I MUST TRY HARDER........ ;)

Well Done All :clap:

The Uncreated - the 6'49 has been deemed too dirty by 2 out of 3 judges. kicking up some dirt up here and there is fine, but there are some spots where you ran too far off course. sorry.

Oh that must hurt...

The cleaner the lap, the better off you are in competitions AND it looks awsome to watch.. just my fair opinion though.

that would be roger bannister that broke the 4 minute mile. i wonder if they had steriods back then....

damn spire...i just dont have the patience to do lap after lap after lap. http://www.wera.com/graphics/smilies/beerchug.gif great time man.

Thx Cal. It does take ALOT of time and patience to paint a good mental picture of the flow of the track. I don't even like to think about how many laps I have put in on the 'Ring since I got this game. :lol:

Man, that's awesome.

This sub-6'50 thing is kind of like the four minute mile; everybody thought it was impossible in the beginning, but once one person does it, suddenly people everywhere are able to pull it off.

But I'll tell ya. Had you not come along with your tall-ass gears on the 7 Honda (230 miles per hour), Spire, I wouldn't have thought even 6'50 would be possible.

Good on ya. Now here's hoping Stormryder and the rest put the same hurt to the Ring; we need to crush this bitch of a track once and for all.

Uncreated

:lol: and what a bitch it is. It is really cool to learn from each other and push towards faster laps. When I saw the times you and Storm put down (sub 50s), I was like :eek:. At the same time, it made me re-think the lines I was running round the 'Ring. When you know it's possible to go faster, it puts you in the right mindset to relearn the track and raise some hell. :twisted:

Also, I said it before but it's worth mentioning again. This thread is full of some stupid fast times. Great Job everybody :rockon:

The Uncreated - the 6'49 has been deemed too dirty by 2 out of 3 judges. kicking up some dirt up here and there is fine, but there are some spots where you ran too far off course. sorry.

You're essentially telling me I cheated. Naturally I take exception to this. You said it yourself; "as long as you don't blatantly cut corners," which I clearly did not, then the run should be fine. It's clear there's a lack of consistency in your judging critera. My run was a disadvantaged run. I could challenge you to support your decision with clear examples of where and how much of an advantage you think I seized, but it would be futile -- no advantage was gained anywhere. That's an undeniable fact. There's just no logic here.

Regardless, I won't appeal that except to say I seized absolutely no advantage and gained no time by running off course. My only regrets are that the lap isn't artistically up to par for you (honestly I fail to see how aesthetics are relevant here). I wholehearteldy believe your decision has zero basis in reason and is utterly devoid of simple sense but I respect it nonetheless. In the end, my time still remains the quickest pro mode effort to date, despite my having unintentionally handicapped myself by kicking up one to many specks of dust for your tastes. Absolutely nobody can deny the fact that the lap would have finished significantly ahead of time had I managed to keep the wheels on the pavement.

I hereby withdraw from the competition. Look forward to even faster times from me in the future.

Uncreated

1.57.mark, you went off, but to me it would be ok, cuz it was real close, like half a tire width left the concrete, and it wouldnt cause a crash. as such i didnt include it in the photos.

there were a few other places where you were off, that i wouldnt count against you as well, simply because i dont believe they would have caused a crash. there were, however, numerous places where im positive you would have crashed if not for the games wonderful off road physics...

included are just some of the places where you were off. once or twice, i probably would let it slide, but not as many offs as you had. sorry.

if you need a more thorough explanation, i will be happy to help. just pm me.

there were, however, numerous places where im positive you would have crashed if not for the games wonderful off road physics...


It's presumption version fact; would have crashed versus didn't crash. I know which one I'd choose. Of those half dozen or so pictures you posted, in how many of them would you say I gained a clear advantage in? Your answer would have to be based upon fact rather than presumption, because facts we can all agree with. Everything else is simply too relative to be considered objective.

The logic still doesn't square, Callaghan. We are quite all over the map on these stipulations. I find it odd that you would deem my run invalid based on a presumption of crashing. There might have been an instance or two where I could have conceivably crashed had the conditions been a real race, but then again Max Biaggi rescuing his GP bike after he accidentally yanked his front wheel over ninety degrees (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7233674656360644181) in the air years ago wouldn't seem probable if we hadn't seen those evening news highlights for ourselves. Moral of the story here is that at times we can't predict with one hundred percent certainty the outcome of what we believe is one hundred percent likely to happen. This is a clear case of being consumed by the details.

It really doesn't matter anymore. I object to these ambigious and outright irrelevant rules, but there's nothing I could nor care to do about it except state my opinion on the matter. I knew I'd hear about this before I entered the competition, but like a fool I went ahead and entered anyway.

included are just some of the places where you were off. once or twice, i probably would let it slide, but not as many offs as you had. sorry

No advantage seized despite those offs, so your position is based almost entirely on presumption and a preference for pretty laps -- hardly a whit more. Again, I fail to see how "pretty" is relevant here.

Uncreated

dude, that video was not even related to your instances. neither of his wheels touched dirt. this has nothing to do with someone wanting pretty laps or what not. this is purely based on the fact that you cannot run the ring whilst keeping your bike on the pavement. that is a fact. again you seem to miss the point. realism. the focus is not to simply make it around a track, but to do so as intended as quickly as possible, which is on the course.

by using the grass/dirt/etc...you are effectively "cheating" if you really want to get down to it. the effective track you are using is not the same size as what everyone else is using, for the grass provides additional square footage of space, which can be used during a run around the circuit. this provides an advantage to the user of the "bigger track." it should be obvious what the advantages are, if not, i will explain...

but thats if you really want to open a can of worms...

and if you have ever leaned a bike over as far as in the game pictures, then you would instanly know that in half of those pictures, you would have lost it and probably been sent to the morgue.

this is purely based on the fact that you cannot run the ring whilst keeping your bike on the pavement.

That's besides the point. Fact is, I did it in 6'49.307 and as much as you might attempt, you can't discount the fact through your out-in-left-field, purely subjective ideals of realism. You've heard it before -- it's a game.

by using the grass/dirt/etc...you are effectively "cheating" if you really want to get down to it.

Prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt and quit wasting my time with your empty suppositions. You've got an awful active imagination, and you do it at my expense.

the effective track you are using is not the same size as what everyone else is using, for the grass provides additional square footage of space, which can be used during a run around the circuit.

I refuse to endlessly debate the issue with you, because clearly I have the superior handle on logic in almost all instances and unlike yourself, I generally do so without the slightest intrusion of subjective personal tastes. If you were right based on clear facts, I'd be a fool to disagree with you, but all you toss at me are fortune teller probabilities that are more often than not some second-hand ambiguity of a rule you haven't thought entirely through.

..this provides an advantage to the user of the "bigger track." it should be obvious what the advantages are, if not, i will explain...

You can't explain. Are you familiar with what happens to a bike when it goes from grass to pavement? The engine speed versus road speed become utterly skewed when it reaches pavement again and the bike must correct itself so that they once again match. The net result is significant amounts of lost drive in virtually all instances. Short of cutting across wide swaths of grassland, this negates any advantage you believe I gain by running wide. In this case not even probability is on your side. Realism is recognizing that laptimes still count in superbike races even if riders kick up a little dirt. Besides, even if I were penalized a massive half second (about what, a mile?) for all those mishaps, which is extremely generous, I'm still faster by a gaping 100 milliseconds to the next time up.

and if you have ever leaned a bike over as far as in the game pictures, then you would instanly know that in half of those pictures, you would have lost it and probably been sent to the morgue.

I do not deny this, but the FACT is it didn't happen, so again you come full circle with your crap shoot presumptions. If you want realism, let's all take a trip to Germany. Learn to separate.

I'm done with this. I will not waste a second more of my time on this adolescent nonsense.

Uncreated

smoke you a fatty...itll help with removing that stick in your ass...

Come on now dont get personal with it... if you need to throw fists at one another or something of that matter, then PM each other...