How to take part:
Complete as many laps as you like of El Captin in a Tourist Trophy mode practice session. Then save a 'best lap replay' for each bike onto a USB stick from the replay theater area and upload it to TT Replays (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/). The fastest time wins. Make sure the time submitted is a best lap replay as that ensures the correct lap is saved with the replay, rather than the complete session.

Bikes you must use:
Yamaha YZF-R1 RM and YSP & Presto R1 8Hour.

Deadline:
The chequered flag is out in 2 week time (Sunday the 29th of October). Any entries submitted after midnight CST will count. :lol:

TT Replays Tag:
All replays for this round should have the tag 'captinR1' or 'captinYSP'. You will be able to enter this when you upload your replay to the site.

Important Links:
Replays submitted so far for the R1 RM (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/bytag.php/captinR1) | Replays submitted so far for the YSP & Presto (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/bytag.php/captinYSP)

i thought id try something a little different. ive always wondered the differnces between the two so were racing them against each other. but this isnt like the previous vs races weve had because i want laptimes from each bike. with two weeks instead of one, this shouldnt be a problem.

i went with el captin because im dead even here with both bikes with only a .0xx differnce in my best times. and weve not used it before :)

good luck all and may the best TTWSO win! :lol:

pro mode only

Leader Board
Callaghan R1 RM - 1.44.984
Diatribe R1 RM - 1:45.736 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/271)
es nes YSP & Presto - 1'45.845
Diatribe YSP & Presto - 1:46.034 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/272)
750F-RM YSP & Presto - 1:46.571
es nes R1 RM - 1'46.600
CELTIC YSP & Presto - 1:46:964
750F-RM R1 RM - 1:46.980
DJ Baker YSP & Presto - 1'49.330
DJ Baker R1 RM - 1'49.335

Both bikes... :think: I was going to take the time off, but that sounds pretty interesting. Might have to give it a shot just to stay in racing shape. If you TTWSO guys are willing to share some set-up info, this might be a good opportunity to give the spec series format a trial run. Using the same set-up on both bikes would make for a great comparison.

K, I don't understand this spot race thingy.. is this for points? And are we racing on default bike settings? Aaand should stuff be tagged 'Capitan' and not 'Captin?'

Edit: K, guessing now this is just a one off race before the next championship. Had a quick go earlier and got a 1:49.7xx with the Presto, and 1:49.5xx with the R1. Do seem very evenly matched bikes.

its just a quick race to help pass the time between series :)

my times so far:

YZF R1 RM - 1'46.600
YSP & Presto - 1'46.812

ello all :) so far, i've got

Presto - 1:46.571
R1 RM - 1:46.980

close times so far, for some reason i was thinking the R1 RM would be the slightly faster one because the YSP power seems to be all around the redline area.

Early Final Submission (I need to get other stuff done during the break.)
#13 DJ Baker
1'49.335 R1 RM
1'49.330 YSP & Presto
Same settings on both bikes. Gear Ratios are slightly different when using the same Auto Setting on both bikes, but the top speeds for each gear are almost identical. I would like someone to take a look at my settings to see how far out in left field they are. Anyone willing?

OK let me have a bit of the action :D

CELTIC #10 TEAM HAZARD :P

R1 - Scratched - Kicked up a little dust on the last curb - Try again later

YSP - 1:46:964

1'46.100 ... 30'9/1'08.8 ... lost some time in the last sector

YSP & Presto btw :)

[edit - 1'45.845 :D i still lost time though because that lap was a 1'09.3 sector 2 mark]

CELTIC - im not too concerned about kicking up dust/etc as long as you dont go too far over the rear tyres width over the grass or if your front wheels kicks up dust and youve to save it from low siding.

looks like i got that 45 out just in time ;)

DJ - im not sure if mine are that great and still arent perfect but ill post them here if youd like?

Scratch the R1 Time es at least a foot and a half over :cry:

been 7 tenths up on that ghost but keep screwin up the last set of esses, giving me a best possible lap at present of mid to low 45's

i'll try the Duke later while i'm tuned into the track as it holds my lap record of 1:46:182 :D

can you show me how far your were off?

the 999r rm used to hold my second fastest time with a 1'36.7, shes been beaten by both yamahas now though. anyways, i think im going to concetrait on the ysp this week and then do the r1 rm next week since i already have decent times for both bikes up.

im curious to see what calla will come up with ... spire would have done really well here too since his style was reallly smooooooth.

Forget it es as i'll beat it anyway :lol:

i'll try the YSP Tommorow on the R1 settings as it's now 1:25am found the YSP to be very skittish at present :?

so far i got a 1.46.860 on the r1 rm

im kind of disappointed, calla, i thought youd have a mid 45 ;)

but, at least the 4 of us are close as usual :D

oh, dont worry...that was on my third lap. i have to adjust some settings as the current setup is a little too stiff for this bumpy course. ill be back later tonight with a respectable time.

now down to a 1.45.483

plenty more in it still, but the damn bumps and the hill just past the bridge keep screwing up laps...

which bridge?

currently my set up can "handle" the hills right after sector 1 mark in a sence the the tyres arent smoking, but, she still moves around a bit. i think on my fast lap i had both wheels off the ground going down hill.

btw - what did you manage for the GTP WRS race at el cap?

i cant seem to keep the tyres on the ground when you take that left hander, crest the hill, then flop it to the right. the bike moves around a lot for sure.

new time though, 1.44.984 (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/258)
on the r1rm. ill have a go on the ysp another night...im heading to bed, its 11:00 here and i need to catch up on some sleep i missed out on over the past 10 weeks. ;)

btw, i dont remember, but i think it was around a 1.47 on the cbr1000rr. i didnt put much time into it though.

only a 47? i thought you were a bit faster because i thought i went with a 46.9 or something like that and i remember you being faster than me?

DJ - im not sure if mine are that great and still arent perfect but ill post them here if youd like?

That would be cool! Just want to see if I'm close, or clueless.

only a 47? i thought you were a bit faster because i thought i went with a 46.9 or something like that and i remember you being faster than me?


i dont remember what i ran, i just know i wasnt happy with what i put in, and i wasnt able to put a whole lot of time into it. i was a bit quicker off the bat with the honda though...

the ysp seems like its a little more tail happy, im having to keep the rear in check...

That would be cool! Just want to see if I'm close, or clueless.

im not sure how helpfull these will be, but ...

7/5
4/8
6/6
4/5

brakes 4/4
auto 6

youll probably want to soften the front springs. ive a bad habbit of stiffen the front springs when the bike stands itself up in the middle of the corner because i think thats the game holding your hand when the forks bottum out. but, here you really just need to find the smooth line and not devitate from it.

ive been knocked off the bike going down hill just past the tunnel because the smooth line seems to be right on the white line.

Thanks for sharing those Es.

By comparison, I was:
a couple to a few clicks softer in spring rate/preload,
a couple clicks higher in rebound damping,
about the same in compression damping,
way more aggressive with the brakes,
& only one setting higher on the trans.

The biggest differences are in spring rate/preload & brakes.

I'll give your settings a try & let you know if they helped, or if I just Suck. ;)

i kept the preload/ride height at 4 because itll help the front from bottuming out, as for the brakes, i tend to trail brake up to the apex and when i use a higher front brake, itll understeer too much.

you might also want to move a bit of rider weight forward in the seat (fore/aft). im personally using -1.5 iirc.

yeah, you have to move the dude foward in the saddle, and if your style is chucking the bike into a corner real hard (i.e. upright,and then slam it full tilt) then reduce your arm angle to the 40', maybe 50. any higher, and the bike will turn the front too quick and the bike shimmies and pushes the front a little. on the other hand, if you are smooth, you can up the arm angle, and have a little more control mid-corner.

both the yamaha and the ysp (essentially a yamaha) hlike to have the front ridden real hard. over the hill after going under the bridge, i actually hold foward a little and turn to the right to keep the front wheel down.

calla - so if you lower the arm angle, the harder you can turn the bike in at the cost of mid corner controll?

any thoughts on the others?

not necessarialy the harder you can turn the bike in, but that if your arm angle is higher, the harder the bike will be thrown in when you go full left or right. if you throw it in too hard, the rear will want to step out, and this results in a wiggle, or shimmie, etc. sometimes, in an extreme case, the front will actually push, because you are making the front slip too much. (i think the last part applies only to the game, as i have never been able to do that in RL...not that i have tried though).

I gave Es' settings a go... The bike is pretty exciting to ride, but so far I'm a bit slower than I was with my settings. I'll spend some time tweaking my form & try to ride into Es' settings.

Here are the settings that I used for the times I submitted. I didn't spend much time on this race, but these are pretty typical of what I've been running. Any corrective critcism would be appreciated.
4/4
3/6
8/8
4/4
Brakes 8/10
Trans Auto Setting 7

the best setting is going to be the one that works best for you. every rider has a different style, and a different setting is needed for each style. sometimes styles are close enough that a basic setting will work, but wont be optimal. i personally have my springs a little higher, ( i think 6 in the front and 5 in the back.) the brakes are also dependent on your style, whether you brake hard straight, or trail brake easy to the apex.

I really don't have a clue about bike set up, just know I like having suspension settings as low as possible.

Down to a 1:47.3xx on the R1 and 1:47.6xx on the 8 hour R1, with all suspension settings at 4-6. Can def cut off some more time, just a case of stringing together 3 perfect sectors rather than 1 good, 1 bad, 1 excellent, etc.

Okay, first official times:
1:46.463 - YSP Presto
1:46.466 - R1 RM

Guess you could call that pretty close :lol:

Not sure if I can better those by much, bar some amazing setup breakthrough.

K, my final times as I'm heading home for a few days and leaving my PS2 here at Uni:

R1 RM: 1:45.736 -- http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/271
YSP&P: 1:46.034 -- http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/272

.. and yet again I've had to go back to all my suspension settings being at 1 to post my best time(s). The R1 RM was a bit lucky, was getting fed up and was gonna quit then somehow pulled an extra half a second out of the last 2 turns on my very last go.

updated the leaderboard ... let me know if i missed someones time ...

with the ysp i wound up with a 1.45.443 and its not pretty. (i.e. grass and dirt) but its not any faster than the r1 rm. although at the bigger tracks, like suzuka, it smokes it. i ran a 2.06 at suzuka with the ysp, and a 2.08 with the r1 rm.

Yamaha R1 - 1:46:067