Infineon - TT world series - 7 laps

http://xs410.xs.to/xs410/06490/ttwss.jpg (http://xs.to)
Thanks, CELTIC!

How to take part:
Complete as many races as youd like of Infineon in a Tourist Trophy TTWS. Then save your fastest race replay onto a USB stick from the replay theater area and upload it to TT Replays (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/). The fastest time wins.

Qualifing - Complete as many laps as youd like of Infineon in a Tourist Trophy > practice > free run. Then save your fastest race replay onto a USB stick from the replay theater area and upload it to TT Replays (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/). The fastest time wins pole position and 1 bonus point. but, beware, unlike the full race where normal "Race moments" will be allowed, qualifing laps must be 100% clean

Bike you can use:
Yamaha YZF-R6 RM
Triumph Daytona 650 RM
Kawasaki ZX-6R RM
Suzuki GSXR-600 RM
Honda CBR600RR RM

Deadline:
The chequered flag is out in 1 week time (Saturday the 30th of December). Any entries submitted after midnight CST will not count.

TT Replays Tag:
All replays for this round should have the tag 'TTWSS-infineon' or "TTWSS-InfineonQ". You will be able to enter this when you upload your replay to the site.

Important Links:
Race Replays submitted so far (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/bytag.php/TTWSS-infineon) | Qualifing Replays submitted so far (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/bytag.php/TTWSS-infineonQ) | Main Championship Rules & Info thread (http://www.motogpboards.com/showthread.php?t=734)

Leaderboard:
#55 F4i_Rider 11:26:483 Team Canada Racing
#88 Callaghan 11.27.884
#29 -Decado- 11'28.446 Team Germany Racing
#7 Diatribe 11:31.349 Bcckmarker Racing
#1 CELTIC 11:32:852 THKDAR
#26 es nes 11'32.999 ISoS/TTWSSO
#75 Suzukibiker 11.33.439 Team Suzuki Germany Rider
TTWS #1 750F-RM 11'33.588 THKDAR
#82 P182 11.38.632 Team SNFU Racing
#13 DJ Baker 11'46.149 Backmarker Racing

pole: CELTIC 1:35:869

so far my best q lap has been a 1'37.415, but, i know i can get a 1'36 because my best sector two time was a 1'03.2 and the 37 is a 1'04.0. then i lose a lot of time in the final hairpin and chicane. the chicane is killing now because i either brake too soon or too late.

so im guessing a 1'35, maybe a 34 pole time with a 38-39 race pace.

a couple of extra notes:

do not kill cones

do not use the inside/raised curbing on the final hairpin

becarefull while qualifying here, specially on the back eses if you use the curbing.

What about the Yellow Hatching on the Mid Point Turn es, My thoughts would be not to go over the outermost yellow line - meaning the hatched area is ok but not beyond it ;) as this course is going to be frustrating to say the least :roll:

What's your Thoughts :think:


This Weeks Grid es :D

ello :) i have a qualifying lap of 1:37.226 at the moment

wow, im not as far off the starting pace as i thought i would be ...

What about the Yellow Hatching on the Mid Point Turn es, My thoughts would be not to go over the outermost yellow line - meaning the hatched area is ok but not beyond it as this course is going to be frustrating to say the least

you can go over that if youd like, but, dont go beyound the cones like at the last hairpin.

and why is #75 not at a grid line? :P

and why is #75 not at a grid line?

He is but he overshot the mark again and is in the process of pulling it back ;)

I've tried for 3 Hrs so far to get a clean race furthest I have got is lap 6 then overshot a breaking zone into the Chicane causing me to go onto grass :cry:

Qualifier :-

1:36:838

Race :-

11:42:561

you can go over that if youd like, but, dont go beyound the cones like at the last hairpin.

Just as well one less thing to worry about ;)

Using my Tsukuba settings and a bit of luck, 1:36.970. The corner that's giving me the most trouble now is the first tight right at the bottom of the hill after the two left rights at the start.

The chicane I'm not having too much trouble with, just braking after 2 and a half cones (with 10/10 brake settings).

i hate the carasol (the long, down hill left hander) it just goes on forever and i cant figure out when to apply the throttle.

ello all :) best race lap i've had so far is a mid 39, but i havn't managed a full race yet. there's some
strange physical quirks that occur at this track, and i keep falling victim to them :lol:

in the absence of a time, i'll attach a pic instead :D

My best so far 1.38.902, but I can't put 7 clean laps together

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6790/img0540mr5.th.jpg (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0540mr5.jpg)

:lol:

bad news guys i just figured out that i've examinations 2 weeks after new year which means i will redraw from the championship due to lak of time, i still will post a time once in a while but to compeet fully in this event is inpossible.
Too bad after my second place in round 1 :S

bad news guys i just figured out that i've examinations 2 weeks after new year
that's a bummer for you :cry:

back at infineon, i've managed to complete a race

750f-rm, ttws #1 - kawasaki zx-6rm - team hazard kawasaki double ace racing

qualifying lap - 1:37.226

1 - 1:40.893
2 - 1:39.230
3 - 1:39.457
4 - 1:38.702
5 - 1:41.229
6 - 1:40.777
7 - 1:41.317

total - 11:41.605

update pole and added small leaderboard (while i wait for my hair dying to finish)

update pole and added small leaderboard (while i wait for my hair dying to finish)

A whiter shade of pale no doubt :lol:


I finally got a decent race strung together :D

01:39:980
01:38:899
01:40:034 :roll: Lost a second
01:38:910
01:39:534
01:40:486
01:40:178
11:38:021 :D

And Now NEARLY A New Qualifier :-

1:36:569 :cry:

Watched the replay and noticed that I kicked up the dust on the exit curb of the uphill chicane :(

So 1:36:838 Still Stands es

bright copper red actually :lol:

First official time from me...

1:38.990
1:38.234
1:38.642
1:39.395
1:38.654
1:40.725
1:41.901 (:()
11:36.541

Did get an 11:35.xxx on my first run but that included a couple of off course excursions.

DJ and Suzuki Biker I'll PM you both later, but I need to head out and change up some Euro's for Italy tomorrow :D

.. and not that it matters but I forgot to upload these pics.

ello all :) i feel like i'm getting the hang of the 7 laps now, and my time has improved to

1 - 1:39.595
2 - 1:38.221
3 - 1:38.134
4 - 1:38.636
5 - 1:39.257
6 - 1:40.678
7 - 1:40.763

total - 11:35.284

Hi, new guy here. Been reading the site for a while now, can I join in on the fun ? Here's my time on the R6 RM


1:40:352
1:38:559
1:38:170
1:38:351
1:39:211
1:38:920
1:39:104

11:32:667

100% clean, unfortunatley I won't be able to upload a replay until after xmas.

as long as your in pro-mode and sign up in the registeration/rules thread ... welcome.

thanks. I was in pro mode, and will go register now. I'm looking forward to racing against you guys, seems like a good group.

11:32:667


Suuuweeet time. :lol:

I'm looking forward to racing against you guys, seems like a good group.

Best Tourist Trophy racers you'll find anywhere are on this site. Believe it.

Uncreated

Welcome F4i Rider and thats a very good time you have posted ;)

If you want to be added to the Grid Photo post a photo of your rider or post your gear and i'll add you to next weeks grid :D

Looks like i've got my work cut out this week :P

Thanks for the warm welcome guys, I'll post my gear info later. Until then, heres a new best time for me.

1:40:238
1:38:952
1:38:205
1:38:433
1:38:219
1:38:665
1:38:947

11:31:659

Judging by the times, it looks like an 11:30:xxx is possible :eek: :eek:

First clean race with no grass-excursions; 11.48.796, big time gap from
you guys but I think I can shave few second off

First clean race with no grass-excursions; 11.48.796, big time gap from
you guys but I think I can shave few second off

Don`t worry mate! I`m nearly on the same pace. ;)

hi all :) gained some more, so my latest time is

1 - 1:39.636
2 - 1:37.826
3 - 1:38.530
4 - 1:38.706
5 - 1:39.069
6 - 1:39.108
7 - 1:40.713

total - 11:33.588

lost the plot a bit on lap 7 :eek:

he's not having the turn, it's mine! :D

my qualifying time so far: 1.36.476. more to come.

down to a 1.36.224.

Greetings from Milan! They have Marco Melandri crisps, such a cool place.

Slightly drunk, but seeing AC Milan tomorrow night, will get to see The Last Supper and Europes best shopping areas so alls good! Ill get those PMs sent out when Im back, thankfully this is a 2 week race. Guess Ive gotta pick my pace up :D

Greetings from Milan! They have Marco Melandri crisps, such a cool place.

Slightly drunk, but seeing AC Milan tomorrow night, will get to see The Last Supper and Europes best shopping areas so alls good! Ill get those PMs sent out when Im back, thankfully this is a 2 week race. Guess Ive gotta pick my pace up :D

Diatribe, Sounds like a good time. Have a few Melandri crisps for me & be sure to wash them down properly. ;)

Es, Is this indeed a 2 week race? Says the checkered flag will be out in 1 week, but then Dec 30th is noted. Maybe some of that hair dye soaked in. ;) I hope it is 2 weeks, since I apparently have to find a lot of time everywhere. :eek:

I found a nice setup and I'm around a 11'35.xxx. I'm not even pushing it yet since my tires were yellow at the end of the race.

dj - two weeks.

Anyone running qualifiers under 1'38 with replays up? I want to see your lines.

Uncreated

Anyone running qualifiers under 1'38 with replays up? I want to see your lines.

Uncreated

I have a 1'37 lap but my line has changed, I may get into a 36. You still want it?

You still want it?

Yeah, thanks.

Uncreated

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/bytag.php/TTWSS-InfineonQ

leaderboard updated along with a new pole time http://www.motogpboards.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

Cheers es :cry: this is going to be the worst holidays ever :(

This track is so frustrating :roll:

and I may have to bill you for a new controller in the new year :P

Hotlapping is fine but running 7 consistent laps is near on impossible, do I sound rattled :lol:

I got that Pissed off last night I Endoed going into the corner with the yellow hatching and swiped the Ai off his bike with the back wheel :twisted: :lol: due to the fact I arsed up the Carousel for the umpteenth time :?

I find Infineon very flowing.... you must of stopped taking your meds Celtic :lol:

Personally I hate tracks where you have to hold bends for more that five seconds, and this one has plenty of those. My riding form of choice isn't exactly sweeper-friendly either, which much to my resistance, forces me to make rather drastic changes.

Uncreated

so, have to decided to join us, TU?

so, have to decided to join us, TU?

I'll probably just settle with hotlapping this one; doing seven laps reminds me of the hell I went through with Nurburgring. Too taxing.

Uncreated

are you going to do any of the other races? or just qualifing?

are you going to do any of the other races? or just qualifing?

Probably just qualifying. We'll see. If the track loosens up for me, I might give the full seven laps a run.

By the way, can you up your 1'36.221 qualifier? I want compare your lines with Storm's and my own.

Uncreated

yeah, when i get home, i can put up my lap. i think i blew quite a few corners though...

i think i blew quite a few corners though...

Doesn't matter. I just need a quick ghost for pace.

Uncreated

I want compare your lines with Storm's and my own.

Uncreated

I should probably go for a better time with my new lines.

Edit: 1'36.939 is my new time.

ok, my replay (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/355) has been uploaded.

Man, this track is brutal. Not cooperating with me at all.

Uncreated

:lol: when you think you just have the game sussed and then your back to earth with a bump :P

Glad to hear I'm not the only one TU :roll:

Glad to hear I'm not the only one TU :roll:

Yeah, well, you people are putting out better than mid 1'36 qualifiers while I'm having a dog of a time bettering my current 1'38.003. It's gotta be my setup I say.

Uncreated

Are you using the 600RR TU?

Are you using the 600RR TU?

Yeppers.

Uncreated

Send me a PM with all your setup's. I'll help.

Send me a PM with all your setup's. I'll help.

It's okay. I'll just keep racing the track until I hit that Matrix moment of clarity.

Uncreated

It's okay. I'll just keep racing the track until I hit that Matrix moment of clarity.

Uncreated

Lol, alright. I find that it's either A) Rider form B) Brake Balance or C) Racing line

My money is on rider form, which is why I'm tweaking it like crazy right now.

Uncreated

Hey guys

New race time 11.43.129, I think I'm near my limit with this one,
but I'm not giving up:twisted:


wish you all happy holidays:D

Hey guys, another new time for me.


1:39:455
1:37:568
1:38:025
1:37:964
1:38:313
1:38:574
1:39:601

11:29:500


I think that's about as fast as I can go.

Hey guys, another new time for me.


1:39:455
1:37:568
1:38:025
1:37:964
1:38:313
1:38:574
1:39:601

11:29:500


I think that's about as fast as I can go.

Man, I don't have a clue, where do you pull this laps from:eek:

11:29:500


Dude, you're gifted.

Uncreated

Um, thanks, I think. LOL

11.26.458. this one need a little judgment call. obviously i am biased, but on lap 7, t1, i thought the previous lap was the last one, and i popped a nice wheelie to celebrate...but it wasnt the last lap...make a long story short, the grass was touched, but i need a call from someone else. i will have the replay up in a minute.

edit: replay (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/357) is up.


lap times:

1.39.027
1.37.725
1.36.982
1.37.043
1.37.116
1.38.131
1.40.434

if its something that would have you on your butt if you had done it on your r6 in real life, then not legal. if you would have stayed rubber down (erm, sideways? :lol: ) then legal.

simple enough :)

1'38.860
1'37.843
1'37.987
138.361
1'38.283
1'37.892
1'39.272

11'28.446

Edit: Calla the rules say that if you save a lowside due to clipping the grass, then it's not legit. I would have given you an O.K. if you hadnt of semi-lowsided.

hats off to you guys under 11:30 :clap: that's what i'm aiming for :D

1'38.860
1'37.843
1'37.987
138.361
1'38.283
1'37.892
1'39.272

11'28.446

Edit: Calla the rules say that if you save a lowside due to clipping the grass, then it's not legit. I would have given you an O.K. if you hadnt of semi-lowsided.


yeah, i wasnt really sure how bad it was. oh well. no time for me this week, as i am leaving for ohio tonight, and wont be back until the 3rd of jan. see you guys in about a week and a half.

yeah, i wasnt really sure how bad it was. oh well. no time for me this week, as i am leaving for ohio tonight, and wont be back until the 3rd of jan. see you guys in about a week and a half.

Sorry bro :cry:

no prob, it was my mistake. i was half falling asleep on the couch and miscounted the laps. i might be able to get a time in if i can take my ps2 with me. i ll have to see...

Speaking of half asleep, I couldnt get in any sleep at all. I kept waking up every other hour or so. I woke up with a migraine... man it hurts.

On the side of watching your replay, it's funny to watch because you're all stunting around. Next thing you know, you can tell your rider is saying "Oh no...!" then jerks the bike in order to save it.

Then I could imagine the rider saying "Go go go go!!!" in order to get in a decent lap time, in which case you did. I think the final verdict rests with Es, I would say keep your lap time since you cant even attempt at another one.

ive not seen his replay yet, but, if he really did save a low side while on the grass then ... sorry.

if he really did save a low side while on the grass then ... sorry.

Not really on the grass. What I saw was him going into the dirt, turning left to get back on, and I believe since he was leaned over when had made contact with the pavement, he dug his foot pegs in like a cleat and began to lowside. But he saved it. I thought that was one of the rules... i read it wrong :shifty:

i think im going to say, sorry calla, but, no go. ive watched it a couple times and at first it appears if you kicked up dirt with the rear tyre then the foot peg dug in. but, the second time the replay was from above and it looks like you got both tyres over the yellow line just long enough to have both tyres start to give way on the grass/dirt which leads to the foot peg digging in lifting the front wheel ...

supporting images:

from here, it looks as if the front is starting to tuck here:

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3016/img0560yg9.th.jpg (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0560yg9.jpg)

then he crosses back onto the track and the foot peg digs in lifting the front:

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5412/img0556ny1.th.jpg (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0556ny1.jpg) http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1830/img0557ps2.th.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0557ps2.jpg)

imo, i think the bike would have been sliding up the hill without a rider the instint he touched the grass/dirt. specially at that lean angle.

sorry, callaghan, but, replay is no good :(

updated leaderboard :)

its all good. thats why i asked for another opinion on whether it would be legal. the wheel touched for a split second, but thats all it takes to put you on your ass! at first, it wasnt going to lowside, but then the bike just kept falling further and further, and i had to pick it up or i would have lowsided. i know i have the pace, and if it werent for that stupid mistake, id be sitting pretty right now. maybe i can squeeze in a few attempts up at my parents house while on vacation.

es, you said this is a two week race? so as long as there is a posted time by next sat. night, its good?

yup, any time before saturday at midnight :)

i need to work on my set up some more, im right behind you at sector 1 mark, but, fall behind from there. i keep running out of road at the exit.

You improve on that 1'37.415 yet ES? I'm sweating it at 1'37.307 right now.

Uncreated

nope, but, ive been trying to work on my race time more than my qualifing time since i wont be beating callaghans 1.36.2

Man, you guys sure did pick up the pace!!! Here's a new time for me.

1:39:127
1:37:474
1:37:769
1:37:043
1:38:585
1:38:337
1:38:148

11:26:483

re:updated leaderboard

TU - a slighlty illegal 1'36.769. coming through the corner that leads up to the last hairpin, the rear tyre slide over the yellow line enough to kick up dirt.

11'32.999

the replay will need to be vareified though. going through the first sector, i clipped one of the high curbs and both wheels were off the ground. i was almost straight up and down though.

ntsc: replay (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/358)

callaghan - 1.36.285 ...hahaha.

F4i - thanx :D

callaghan - 1.36.285 ...hahaha.

F4i - thanx :D


No prob man.

so, who else is racing against a 999r rm?


[edit - i mean ran over a 999r rm at the exit of a corner]

Hi all, decided to to a qualifying run today. Here's my time with splits.


21:220
1:02:938

1:36:127

1:36:127

WTF?! :eek:

Uncreated

top q times (iirc)

1'36.1 (F4i_Rider)
1'36.22 (calla)
1'36.28 (es nes)

apologies for going off-topic, but i wanted to post this pic and didn't see the point of a whole new thread in the gallery for one pic :)

a dvd i've made of my season in the TTWS, using the lightscribe drive on my pc. i took the pic from race 4 at apricot hill, because
it was on my username bike. it took 30 minutes for the lightscriber to complete the image

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g120/750F-RM/dvdpic.jpg

i captured the replays to my pc via a dazzle dvc device

i've used the same picture for the dvd menus, and added music to the races by one of my favourite bands, status quo

chapter points have been placed at the beginning of each lap in the races, and at the split points on the hotlaps

it's taken a while, but i'm happy with how it's turned out. i'm going to do one for the current TTWSS too :D

apologies for going off-topic, but i wanted to post this pic and didn't see the point of a whole new thread in the gallery for one pic :)

a dvd i've made of my season in the TTWS, using the lightscribe drive on my pc. i took the pic from race 4 at apricot hill, because
it was on my username bike. it took 30minutes for the lightscriber to complete the image

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g120/750F-RM/dvdpic.jpg

i captured the replays to my pc via a dazzle dvc device

i've used the same picture for the dvd menus, and added music to the races by one of my favourite bands, status quo

chapter points have been placed at the beginning of each lap in the races, and at the split points on the hotlaps

it's taken a while, but i'm happy with how it's turned out. i'm going to do one for the current TTWSS too :D


Merry christmas to:D everyone on the board!

Hey

New race time(TNX mate) 11.39.028

since no ones apparently had issues with my replay, ill add it to the leaderboard.

I'm watching it right now.

Edit: Replay is fine es, no worries. I did the same thing at a different corner.

I'm down to 1'36.322 (Cal's ghost beat me about ten meters before the finish line). The clarity is kicking in. I'm feeling a 1'35 is going to surface real soon.

Probably would have had that 1'35 if it weren't for my bike bouncing off the second gear limiter for a good five seconds at the hairpin following the straight after the long downhill left-hander. Lost a LOT of time there because of it.

Uncreated

1'36.222.

Uncreated

Hey

New race time 11.37.714, but I don't know if it's ok because I ran little wide
over the marked area at the last corner . I think it's normal race moment, because I only did it once. Can someone look at the replay and tell me if it's ok

Hey

New race time 11.37.714, but I don't know if it's ok because I ran little wide
over the marked area at the last corner . I think it's normal race moment, because I only did it once. Can someone look at the replay and tell me if it's ok

So far I know is it allowed to cross the yellow lines. Only touching the cones ist not okay. If someone know better - let me know about. If you play with failure conditions on and overun the yellow lines you wont be punished with extra time.

1'36.222.

Uncreated

Hey

New race time 11.37.714, but I don't know if it's ok because I ran little wide
over the marked area at the last corner . I think it's normal race moment, because I only did it once. Can someone look at the replay and tell me if it's ok

I'm glad my suggestions helped both of you guys out ;)

but, dont go beyound the cones like at the last hairpin
this is quoted from post #6, and here's a pic from your replay p182, taken at the last turn on lap 1

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g120/750F-RM/p182infineon.jpg

from that, i'd say your race was invalid :(

final say is with the mods of course

I'd give it to him... going that wide makes you lose time so that would be his penalty

I'm glad my suggestions helped both of you guys out ;)

Stormy, Stormy. :)

What makes you think our success is a direct result of your suggestions? There are no amateurs around here. The common trait among us speedsters in this thread is that we're persistent (and talented), and that's the biggest factor of our success.

Remember, clarity is a powerful thing. The track is our teacher. It presents as much of the answer as it does a problem, and if we chip away at a track long enough, it'll teach us what we need to know. That's precisely why you, I and the few others here pretty much have Matrix skills in this game.

Uncreated

Finally got some time on this with no distractions :P

1:39:421
1:37:967
1:39:050 :(
1:37:736
1:38:545
1:40:657 :cry:
1:39:480
11:32:852

Stormy, Stormy. :)

What makes you think our success is a direct result of your suggestions? There are no amateurs around here. The common trait among us speedsters in this thread is that we're persistent (and talented), and that's the biggest factor of our success.

Remember, clarity is a powerful thing. The track is our teacher. It presents as much of the answer as it does a problem, and if we chip away at a track long enough, it'll teach us what we need to know. That's precisely why you, I and the few others here pretty much have Matrix skills in this game.

Uncreated

Uh... it never was directly linked... :eh: I'm not really talking about the track, and you asked about rider form in a PM (and so did a few others). I just gave you a tip on what do with the form since you had trouble with it. Good explanation you had there none the less.

My first time:

11.36.316

1. 1.39.920
2. 1.39.365
3. 1.39.033
4. 1.39.033
5. 1.39.009
6. 1.39.772
7. 1.40.124

My first time:

11.36.316

1. 1.39.920
2. 1.39.365
3. 1.39.033
4. 1.39.033
5. 1.39.009
6. 1.39.772
7. 1.40.124

That may not be the best time on the boards but damn that is consistent :eek:

I'm not really talking about the track, and you asked about rider form in a PM (and so did a few others). I just gave you a tip on what do with the form since you had trouble with it.

Regarding rider forms, I entertained your offer that vertical slide noticeably affected handling performance when you messaged me first. Honestly outside of lateral slide and knee angle, I notice no handling gains or losses. Unless I'm missing something, rider forms are for the most part cosmetic, and I like yourself ride hard enough to notice even the most subtle change in handling dynamics. I'm positive that each of us here, considering our respective experience playing Tourist Trophy, has equal knowledge of most of the deeper aspects of this game. Take a gander at how little time separates each of our quickest runs on these tracks.

In the end however, I settled with a rider form with very minor adjustments outside the default Lean Bike setting on the hope that it would make an improvement. Can't say it did, because rider forms a largely cloudy things we're forced to take on faith. Kinda like the daily horroscope.

Uncreated

Well if you noticed no change, then my suggestion to you didnt work. However, the two other riders I talk to did notice a change. Vertical slide might not affect your handling TU, based on what you rider form is. I suspect it's not the same as mine.

Well if you noticed no change, then my suggestion to you didnt work.

I didn't use your suggestion. That wasn't out of protest for some perceived presumption on your part, but that I've held the position for quite some time that most aspects of rider form are simply for good (or bad) looks with nary of translatable benefits pertaining to handling.

Listen, I recognize that at times you and I display what is clearly a dysfunctional comraderie, and I can largely accept that with objective detachmment -- you are what you are as I am what I am, but to be honest, in my dealings with you I have to be ever-vigiliant so as to not take the bait that would catapult you and your personal glory to the forefront of public recognition.

But it's all good; I'm fast and you're fast -- we run some fierce track. Suspending our personal hangups and concentrating on the game is the the best solution, IMO.

Uncreated

but to be honest, in my dealings with you I have to be ever-vigiliant so as to not take the bait that would catapult you and your personal glory to the forefront of public recognition.

But it's all good; I'm fast and you're fast -- we run some fierce track. Suspending our personal hangups and concentrating on the game is the the best solution, IMO.

Uncreated

:eh: Say what you want TU. I'm not quite sure you know what you're even speaking of. Maybe you should be a little more careful with reading what I type, for all I know I'm just trying to help. Go ask someone else for help in the future.

Go ask someone else for help in the future.

I didn't ask you for help; you virtually insisted I accept your help when you assaulted my private message box with your theories. Want to know why I don't ask you in particular for help? Bear with me about ten minutes while I dig up an old post of mine.

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Want to know why I don't ask you in particular for help? Bear with me about ten minutes while I dig up an old post of mine.


This one. (http://www.motogpboards.com/showpost.php?p=2279&postcount=52)

Read the entire post, particularly the second paragraph. That was written nearly six months ago. To date, any offer of help on your part I've brushed off (http://www.motogpboards.com/showpost.php?p=6471&postcount=58) knowing full well how much of a relentless opportunist you are (http://www.motogpboards.com/showpost.php?p=6537&postcount=100) in making sure we don't forget your name. I've lost count on how many threads on the various messageboards you've hijacked to reiterate to us your self-important proclamation of being some sort of Jedi master at this game, when in reality, outside of a few handicapped semi-pro runs on a few tracks, you've accomplished very little.

I'm aware that you exhausted your enjoyment of this game ages ago; outside of Nordschliefe, playing this game for you is like having your teeth pulled. Your appreciation for this game is limited and not overly praiseworthy. You seem to have paid for this game with the singleminded goal of advertising yourself, as if it was your meal ticket to personal fame.

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Haven't been around much lately, & if this is what I have to look forward to I might not be around much in the future. This is supposed to be fun. If you can't get along, you could at least discuss it privately & spare the rest of us the drama. :pray:

Happy Holidays none the less!

yea i agree with you DJ, where's the fun going too. If it goes on like this i better stay away from the forum before i or more people become the victime of that kind of things.

Come back to the game after a well earned break, and have just come up with this..

Q: 1:36.726 (T1: 20.448, T2: 1:02.496)

Race time: 11:32.243
1:40.602
1:38.252
1:36.451 (with mediums, but can't get close to it in qualifying)
1:38.118
1:39.275
1:38.844
1:40.701

Not bad apart from the first lap. Had to force myself to play this though, has been more of a chore than anything enjoyable this round.

i better stay away from the forum before i or more people become the victime of that kind of things.

You need to relax.

Uncreated

Hi all, decided to to a qualifying run today. Here's my time with splits.


21:220
1:02:938

1:36:127
Hmm.. so after the first sector I have a lead of 8 tenths, lose 3 tenths in the second and then somehow throw away well over a second in what's basically just a chicane and a hairpin :eh:

Hmm..

I'm not sure how finely the game translates horsepower ratings to on-track performance, but it's worth noting that the R6 in the game is rated on average ten horsepower higher than its peers (second only to the ZX-6 at 144HP), has gobs of torque and it may well be the lightest. I think where we're getting hit is on the straights, but admittedly this neglects other factors. I'm tempted to put the R6 to the test, but I'm a dedicated Honda boy because I've had so much success with them. I have faith that the CBR600, the least powerful 600 at 126HP, could pull off a late 1'15. For the sake of comparison, the R6 weighs in at 140HP.

The chicane, if approached a certain way, will allow you to slingshot around the second apex and gain a lot of time. It quite reminds me of the ninety-degree turn at Deep Forest after the patch of concrete. I haven't quite solved the final hairpin though -- there isn't much in the way of environmental cues to assist breaking for it.


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This one. (http://www.motogpboards.com/showpost.php?p=2279&postcount=52)

Read the entire post, particularly the second paragraph. That was written nearly six months ago. To date, any offer of help on your part I've brushed off (http://www.motogpboards.com/showpost.php?p=6471&postcount=58) knowing full well how much of a relentless opportunist you are (http://www.motogpboards.com/showpost.php?p=6537&postcount=100) in making sure we don't forget your name. I've lost count on how many threads on the various messageboards you've hijacked to reiterate to us your self-important proclamation of being some sort of Jedi master at this game, when in reality, outside of a few handicapped semi-pro runs on a few tracks, you've accomplished very little.

I'm aware that you exhausted your enjoyment of this game ages ago; outside of Nordschliefe, playing this game for you is like having your teeth pulled. Your appreciation for this game is limited and not overly praiseworthy. You seem to have paid for this game with the singleminded goal of advertising yourself, as if it was your meal ticket to personal fame.

Uncreated

Hmmm... jibber-jabber mi habber :roll:. You can go on, I honestly dont care what you think. I dont try to make you look like a fool, I don't know who you are. Yet you think you know every ounce of blood in me. Why does it matter so much to you?

I'm not sure how finely the game translates horsepower ratings to on-track performance, but it's worth noting that the R6 in the game is rated on average ten horsepower higher than its peers (second only to the ZX-6 at 144HP), has gobs of torque and it may well be the lightest. I think where we're getting hit is on the straights, but admittedly this neglects other factors. I'm tempted to put the R6 to the test, but I'm a dedicated Honda boy because I've had so much success with them. I have faith that the CBR600, the least powerful 600 at 126HP, could pull off a late 1'15. For the sake of comparison, the R6 weighs in at 140HP.

The chicane, if approached a certain way, will allow you to slingshot around the second apex and gain a lot of time. It quite reminds me of the ninety-degree turn at Deep Forest after the patch of concrete. I haven't quite solved the final hairpin though -- there isn't much in the way of environmental cues to assist breaking for it.


Uncreated
Aye, it could very well be that. New qualifier of 1:36.472 (20.346, 1:02.278) but again I'm losing out in that last sector.

I didn't think horsepower would play that large a part though, pretty frustrating being 7 tenths ahead at that point then getting blown into the dust.

Yet you think you know every ounce of blood in me. Why does it matter so much to you?

I know those of your ilk. People like me exist to keep people like you in check, because you seem to enjoy running roughshod over the dignity of other people if it will advance your quest for personal glory. You do it all the time, and it's disgusting.

I am perceptive beyond my years, and when I wrote that post to you six months ago, I knew the complete extent of the silly games you play. This time, like every instance before it, you offered help and I refused. Yet you decided to pursue it and private message me your theories, uninvited, then you boldy attempted to claim credit for having helped me run a quick lap on this track. When I called you on your crap, you then fed me your dumb guilt-trip about me having to look elsewhere for help when I asked you for none to begin with. With crystal clarity, I predicted your nonsense, and I'll be damned if I let you manufacture this episode into something serving your deeply-rooted, fractured young ego.

Others may put up with your foolishness, but you're dealing with a whole other level of awareness here. You are transparent to me.

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So tell me... what do I gain my personal strength from? Hmm? I'll give you a clue, it starts with an M. Keep guessing. If you think my life revolves around this game, go for it. I dont give a shit. Your the only dipshit that I know of that thinks that I have some sort of an ego. There's a difference between having no self-esteem and being arrogant. And there are those that have their heads on straight like the me and the rest of us, which are inbetween no self-esteen and arrogant. So spin the wheel of fortune and see what you get.

If that "m" represents money, your world is far more narrow than even I could have ever imagined.

You fool nobody with your empty rhetoric, young pup. Go bark your plaintiff cries elsewhere, perhaps nip at the ankles of someone more receptive of your shallow, highly-predictable ways.

I'm done.

Uncreated

The bottom line is that we are all here playing A VIDEO GAME. We're just doing this for a bit of fun and relief from work, and for people like me it's the closest I'll get to riding a real bike in the next couple of years. So why the bickering? Doesn't matter who helps who, who gets what credit and what "egos" people may or may not have.

You're two of the best racers on the forum, so spend less time arguing and more time racing, 'cos at the moment we're all lagging behind Celtic and now this F4i fellow. And it will probably only end in Dom banning people, and then who wins? And in the meantime enjoy the rest of your Christmas break.

If that "m" represents money, your world is far more narrow than even I could have ever imagined.

You fool nobody with your empty rhetoric, young pup. Go bark your plaintiff cries elsewhere, perhaps nip at the ankles of someone more receptive of your shallow, highly-predictable ways.

I'm done.

Uncreated

Oh how funny :lol:

p182 - sorry, but, keep trying :?

leaderboard updated.

1'35.913, one minor off. Shall keep trying.

Uncreated

I just threw down a clean 1'35.7xx on, you guessed it -- the game-breaking R6. This thing has acceleration properties that so greatly outclasses the other 600s that it's damn unfair.

I'll upload the replay in about ten minutes.

Uncreated

Here it is.

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/361

Splits were 21.102 and 1'02.816.

Uncreated

P182 - sorry, but, keep trying :?


OK:cry:

I just threw down a clean 1'35.7xx on, you guessed it -- the game-breaking R6. This thing has acceleration properties that so greatly outclasses the other 600s that it's damn unfair.

I'll upload the replay in about ten minutes.

Uncreated
On my second lap with the R6, 1:36.096. Was a couple of tenths behind my ghost up until the chicane, where the R6 started acting more like a superbike. I'll go back and have a few more runs, will hopefully be able to match your 1:35.7.

Edit: 1:35.850 (20.748, 1:02.610). Couple more tenths there but there's no point trying to put too much effort in. Back to the Gixxer...

Edit: 1:35.850 (20.748, 1:02.610). Couple more tenths there but there's no point trying to put too much effort in. Back to the Gixxer...

When you have time, give the R6 a few more runs. I'm curious to see how far we can cut down on our laptimes.

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Upped my qualifying reply. http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/362

Can someone please check to make sure it worked for me, its my first time putting up a replay. Thanks:D

Upped my qualifying reply.

Will you carry on lowering that time? The R6 has plenty more in 'er.

Uncreated

I'm still working on it. It seems like I am losing a lot of time in the last sector.

I'm still working on it. It seems like I am losing a lot of time in the last sector.

Understandable. Both the chicane and final hairpin are evil. I'm looking forward to your next offering for sure.

Uncreated

I just noticed, I think the replay I put up was a 1:36:110. Sorry for the mix up:redface:

Race replay uploaded.

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/363

F4i_Rider still awaiting your gear for next weeks grid photo ;)

Just upload a TT photo of your rider :D

F4i_Rider still awaiting your gear for next weeks grid photo ;)

Just upload a TT photo of your rider :D

Sorry, will do by tomorrow.

Sorry, will do by tomorrow.

New race time:

11.33.972


1. 1.39.828
2. 1.38.684
3. 1.38.324
4. 1.38.503
5. 1.38.628
6. 1.39.178:?
7. 1.40.827:cry:

ran a new time earlier today, 11.27.something. (100% clean) i have a real limited access to internet and ps2, so please forgive me. i should be able to upload a replay and full time (thousandths) in a few days.

hi all :) just my luck, came down with a bug the day after xmas. mind you, the day bfore xmas would've been worse :D

anyways, i've nearly got rid of the headache, so i'll be having a few more attempts at the race now

i must confess though, it seems i have a short attention span, cos i'd rather be on the next round by now :lol:

a couple of extra notes:

do not kill cones

do not use the inside/raised curbing on the final hairpin

becarefull while qualifying here, specially on the back eses if you use the curbing.
Just noticed this, what's so different about this from the curbing on other corners? Surely it's okay to clip the normal blue and yellow curbing there like it is at any other corner? Anyway, new times...

Qualifier: 1:35.886 (20.511, 1:02.246)
Race time: 11:31.349
(1:39.173
1:37.901
1:37.454
1:37.901
1:38.916
1:39.345
1:40.659)
That included clipping that curb/apex on the final hairpin a couple of times though :?

Edit: Consider this my final time.

[stupid question]That's fine, ja?[/stupid question]

I'd like to think you could go so far as drag your knee on the pavement on the inside of the rumblestrip, so long as your wheels stay within the blue and yellow area. To me you're way safe.

I believe the rule means not to cut inside the rumblestrip altogether and graze your noggin off the inside wall.

Uncreated

Cool, just wanted to check as I wasn't sure why that turn in particular had been singled out. Guess it's like the concrete patch and curbing at Deep Forest.

diatribe - basically, but, yeah, as long as your wheels stay on the track and not go over the curbing then its fine.

race time 11.38.632

race time 11.38.632


race time 11.33.439 (thats all I can do:cry: )

New Qualifier :

1:35:869

Something for the R6's to chase ;) or Diatribe :lol:

Damn you! I've just got back from the pub and have had way too much Guinness, but that's an awesome lap, I know how hard it is to get that low. Nice one :)

from earlier, 11.27.884. havent had the time to put any races in, being on "vacation" and all. next round maybe...just maybe, ill finally get a win. great times from everyone! nice Q celtic, that is impressive.

My race replay is added nes.

1:35:869


Congrats.

Uncreated

11'46.149 is all I could muster up.

Got down to 1'38.854 in Practice/Qualifying, but couldn't do a lap under 1'40 in a race no matter what I tried. :wall:

I know we had 2 weeks, but I didn't have much time since I'm getting things ready to head to Phoenix for the Winter.

Congrats to those that threw down some amazing times! :clap:

New Qualifier :

1:35:869

Something for the R6's to chase ;) or Diatribe :lol:



Nice time!!! Best I could manage was a 1:36:065. I have no idea how you got in the 35's. Nice!!!!!!!!

I have no idea how you got in the 35's. Nice!!!!!!!!

144 horses, that's how. This track is particularly horsepower friendly. The R6 and the ZX-6 positively tear up at Infinenon. While the CBR600 is a great handling bike, it's way too difficult to put out sub-1'36 times with it considering its massive lack of horsepower when set beside the others in its class.

Uncreated

144 horses, that's how. This track is particularly horsepower friendly. The R6 and the ZX-6 positively tear up at Infinenon. While the CBR600 is a great handling bike, it's way too difficult to put out sub-1'36 times with it considering its massive lack of horsepower when set beside the others in its class.

Uncreated

Does anybody know when we can expect the final results of infineon? Deadline was last midnight imo.:eh:

leaderboard/pole time updated foor the final time :)

[edit - since callaghans still on vaction, i went a head and updated the standings too (and probably ruined his format too somehow :( ) CELTIC - just waiting on your q replay]

144 horses, that's how. This track is particularly horsepower friendly. The R6 and the ZX-6 positively tear up at Infinenon. While the CBR600 is a great handling bike, it's way too difficult to put out sub-1'36 times with it considering its massive lack of horsepower when set beside the others in its class.

Uncreated

This is why im surprised TH is the only ones using the kwack. handles just as good as the rest, but, has more power through out more of the rev range.

This is why im surprised TH is the only ones using the kwack. handles just as good as the rest, but, has more power through out more of the rev range.

You may be right es but at Infineon I found that the power was a disadvantage as softs would not last and Mediums tended to spin up too much, to the point that I had to use a different set up for the qualifying lap with softs.

Just found it difficult to get the power down with the med tyres and lengthening the gears out cost me too much exiting all the slow corners so in the end it was a compromise for the race hence my 5th place.

Qualifying Replay : IMO Replay looks so easy - probably the sign of a good lap :D

http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/files/replays/kawasaki/zx6rracingmodify/679198/REPLAY.DAT

here's my replay (http://www.ttbikesim.com/community/single.php/368) for this round :)

Qualifying Replay : IMO Replay looks so easy - probably the sign of a good lap :D

You notice the qualifier I ran (http://www.motogpboards.com/showpost.php?p=6569&postcount=130) four days ago? After being anchored down by the straining CBR600, I took a spin on the R6, with surprising results.

Uncreated

thanks guys, youre replays have been added http://www.motogpboards.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

congrats to F4i rider, for winning this round, very impressif

i have to wholeheartedly dissagree you TU. the cbr does not anchor you down at this track. this is not a horsepower track at all. its a "power under the curve" track. also, given more time, i would have had a 35, but i only managed to put in about an hours worth of race time, and maybe 30-40min worth of Q time. if i had two weeks of play time, i would have put in a 35 for sure, and maybe even won the race here (considering my previous time...which was DQ'd). also, i put in a 1.36.x in my race, with mediums, while only using 5 gears for the whole track...all on the cbr.

i understand that each person has their opinion, and this is just mine.

It isn't a horsepower track until you get to the final sector. It's much like Donington in that respect, in that you need a setup that'll allow for the flowing first half and the car park like second.

In comparison to my R6 ghost of 1:35.850, I was always at least half a second ahead then got pulled back late on by sheer acceleration out of the tighter turns.

Well, I struggled to consistently pull a 1'35.600 on the CBR. A few tries into the R6, despite a rather ugly run where I took more than one turn shoddily, I crushed my own personal best on the CBR (1'36.222) by over a half second (a bloody slow 1'02.819 at second checkpoint, 1'35.791 final). The R6 is an extremely forgiving ride compared to the CBR.

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